147 gr 9mm ammo

glock__26

I have heard that the velocity of 147 gr. 9mm JHP ammo is not enough to make the bullet expand properly. Have any of you guys heard this? Is it true?

Wehrmacht_45

Seems to work fine in everything I have seen. Really alot depends on ammo when it comes to reliable expansion with JHP ammo.

William81

They are not a good choice for anything other than what they were designed for. As I recall, they were designed for use in carbines or silenced firearms.

bobski

147gr bullets are usually used in conjuction with TCJ(truncaded cone jacket) projectiles. these rounds have very effective knock down power and have been used a lot in SMG's. wore the heck out of my sig226, but they worked fine for my line of work.

glock__26

Would anyone recommend these for a self defense round?

Wehrmacht_45

I have then in my Steyr M9 in the form of Speer Gold Dots.

Here is the result of 147gr Winchester Black Talons fired from a handgun by a friend of mine in law enforcement.
http://www.gunatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2763

here are Golden Sabers
http://www.brassfetcher.com/9x19mm147grGoldenSaber.html

If you think about your question, the 147gr 9mm moves faster than alot of standard 45acp loads, and yet they expand.

rufe-snow

From my personal experience, be sure and test the various manufacturers 147 loads prior to carrying them for CCW.

147 Grain HP Winchester white box wouldn't function reliably in my P 11, because of the blunt nose on the hollow points. The Remington 147 grain Golden Sabres on the other hand, work just fine.

Mobuck

I compared some 147,124,& 115 grain Gold Dot HP's in both 4" and 5" pistols. The 147 showed excessive penetration in both when fired into milk jugs filled with water. This is not a definitive test but a comparison of the 3 bullets expansion and penetration in a similar medium. Not much difference in the lighter bullets but the 147 penetrated at least 12" more than either. Average was 3 jugs or about 24" of water plus up to 2" of dry, compacted newpaper. I chose the 124 grain over the 115 simply because I had a full case of that load. I have used the 147 in my Ruger carbine and feel it would work well with close range penetration of 16"+/- of water. In fact, I feel it would work on deer under 100 yards if you were carefull to select only ribcage shots.

5mmgunguy

I would go with the 124 gr golden sabers +P myself.

dtknowles

Use the 124/125 grain JHP's unless you are shooting through sheet metal, window glass, or other concealment. Heavy .355 or .357 bullets have awesome penetration but only to be used when needed otherwise use lighter bullets

Tim

glock__26

Thanks for all the info guys!