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Garand

rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
edited March 2008 in Ask the Experts
A friend's father passed away last month and he is offering me a Garand from the estate. It has a Springfield receiver that has had the serial number removed and a new number stamped in it's place. I am a little leery of this. Is there any reason to turn the offer down? The gun looks like an arsenal rebuild with a refinished stock, and comes with a bayonet. I know it is not a collector, but would make a good shooter.
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Garand, (Springfield) ser no# 14xxxxx. It has H & R stamped on the barrel with sa 11010457 5 65bu18 along with 7.62 NATO. I haven't shot this. Just wondering what this might be worth. Metal is good, no rust. It has the old windage adjustable sights(has a bar across the knurled knob). Wood is good, only a couple of dings. Thanks.
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Last year I bought my father a bayonet for his Garand. This year I'd like to get his cleaning kit that fits in the stock.
    I do not need collector grade stuff, just what needs to be in there.
    What do I need to get? [?]
    An item number for a GB auction would be great, as I need to get this done in the next 19 days.
    Thanks,
    DSM
    His gun is a late WWII, maybe even post war a little bit.
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    On my Garand is Very difficult if not impossible to feed in a loaded clip and once done gun will only fire single shots. It will eject spent shell but will not feed another one in with out manually recaulking. Doesn't seem that the bolt is being pushed back far enough to pick up new shell. Could problem be with spring, gas chamber and/or clip? Gun does not apper to be worn etc.
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Having never owned a Garand, but watching my father carry one in the Christmas parade every year with the honor guard. (he borrowed one from a neighbor). I am interested in owning one for light shooting and sentimental reasons. I have seen several. What should I look for? Since I have several 308s I was hopeing to find a Navy version, So I don't have to buy another cal of ammo. I did find one at a gun show in 308 for $1600.00. It is a International Harvester. I know these command a higher price because of the brand. What else should I look for? I know only that they are a great firearm. Thanks any help apprieciated Rick
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Gentlemen, I need information on a Springfield Armory M1 Garand. On the buttstock there's on one side a sort of "stenciled" in white a regtangular box with numbers also stenciled in. Under those numbers there's a "333" written in. The other side of the buttstock has another more faded box (stenciled) with numbers and markings inside the box, I cannot make out too well the markings. If you know or have an idea on what these markings mean, I would appreciate your imput. Thank you.
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a .308 Garand and the gas cylinder is out of spec and op rod piston is also out of spec. Should I try to get the same vintage gas cylinder? Who be good to replace the piston on op rod? Will this devalue the Garand any?
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  • nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You already have a mixed parts rifle with a commercial barrel; they were only made in .30-06. If the conversion had been done by the US military, it would be chambered in 7.62mm. It's value now, & in the future, is strictly as a shooter.

    For quality work at a fair price, consider:
    http://www.dgrguns.com/

    Neal
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    All the Garands I have seen are mutts any ways. This was done by the Navy chamber for .308.

    Side note: I have a 30-06 reverb by Springfield in the 50's. I am wondering is the band that sits between the front hand guard and the back hand guard should be pretty flush to the top of the wood?
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  • ww2buff9067ww2buff9067 Member Posts: 472 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Call Tony at Orion 7 (get his info at www.m1garandrifle.com), he'll be able to steer you on the right course.

    I sent a rifle there recently with a bunch of problems and it came back a straight shooter and dead on at 200 yds. Well pleased with the work they did, and had a quick turnaround time as well.

    Hope this helps,

    Mike
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  • givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by rfarm001
    All the Garands I have seen are mutts any ways. This was done by the Navy chamber for .308.

    Side note: I have a 30-06 reverb by Springfield in the 50's. I am wondering is the band that sits between the front hand guard and the back hand guard should be pretty flush to the top of the wood?


    Item in red: check stamping carefully and see if you really have .308 stamped on the barrel, or 7.62. I'll bet it says 7.62. Don't fire .308 ammo in barrel stamped 7.62. The .308 civilian ammo is 5,000 psi higher than 7.62 military ammo. Exception being Winchester "Q" series white box. That stuff is loaded to 7.62 military pressures. The .308 commercial ammo could very easily damage the Garand. Best to be careful. Joe

    EDIT:
    Ref your post below. One round of an overpressure cartridge can/may cause damage. Sorry I didn't make it clear in my original reply. It's not the chamber pressure, but the gas-port pressure (pressure curve). Too many bent op-rods/sheared bolt lugs out there from civilian ammo. Some folks encountered damage after the first shot. Again, err to the side of caution. You don't have a hunting rifle, unless you handload hunting bullets (non FMJ) to military 7.62 pressures. Best, Joe
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  • rfarm001rfarm001 Member Posts: 10 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I only use the 7.62 surplus ammo in it unless I hunt with it and by hunting rounds.
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