% Lethal Website

olsenjb

A while back I found a website through a post here on Gunbroker that showed data about what percentage of the time a shooting was lethal based on the caliber of gun used and by bullet weight and manufacturer. Does anyone have the link to that website? I can't seem to find it now.

olsenjb

Nevermind...I finally found it.

http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp

ruger41

Very cool website-it is very interesting to compare the different loadings---I had no idea so many people were using .41 mags or how many .25acp's were being used.

kiwibird1

That is a cool website.

gotstolefrom

I had to look too.


I did see that sometimes the FMJ and some JHP percentages were not radically different....shot placement has to be it.

That said...I would rather take a 45 in the glutimus than a 22 in the eye.

TooBig

I had seen that a while back and forgot about it and thanks for posting it again. Hell to get old and forget the good sites.[:D][:D][:0]

glabray

While on the site check how many times very small calibers such as .22LR, 25ACP and 32s have been used compared to the large calibers.

MrGunz22

I didnt realize the .223 was so deadly. I always wondered why we shot a 223 when our enemies shot a much larger 7.62 at us. The proof is in the pudding.

heavyiron

Yes, Marshall and Sanow have been keeping their database of one-shot stops for years. The story behind Marshall and Sanow is both were New York City detectives and they embarked on a project to determine which calibers were most effective to stop a perp with one shot. One shot according to their definition is the perp is down and is unable to rise or continue the fight.

Their data is the greatest source of confidence and indicator of effectiveness of a given caliber because all the incidents were real shootings where the adrenaline is pumping, vision narrows, and the heart races. It isn't the same as the academic arguments about foot-pounds of energy, velocity, bullet cross-section, bullet weight, or ballistic gelatin. The Marshall and Sanow data is the conclusion about real shootings under stressful conditions.

IMHO.

Heavyiron

glabray

I too am surprised at the supposed 1-shot effectiveness of the .223. It seems very out of line with a lot of the stories coming out of the sand box.

sandwarrior

After reviewing the results I am not surprised to find the .223 and .308 at the top of the heaps. In the LE world both would be much more inclined to be equipped to be precision aimed than a pistol. **Note that the .308 has even higher percentages than does the .223 ...Whaddya think of that?

Also, without circumstances behind each story there is no way to say what is stopping power and what isn't. A lucky shot to the head with a .38 will stop a perp. A shot to the body probably won't. Sure it comes out in the average....but it still sways the meter. I wasn't surprised to find that the .40 and .45 were pretty much on top of the pistol class weapons.