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Why FFL to sell (individual)

MaxOHMSMaxOHMS Member Posts: 14,715
edited March 2008 in Ask the Experts
I just sold my 870 on GB out of state. The buyer E'd and asked for a copy of an FFL w/ it. Could someone explain that one to me?
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  • MFIMFI Member Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Maybe the FFL he is using to receive the gun requires one before he will log it in and transfer it to him. If he does then the buyer should have gotton that straight before he bid on it .
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  • flyingtorpedoflyingtorpedo Member Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    His FFL may only accept firearms from other ffl's, not a law but some dealers' own policy. Did your ad state that you are not an ffl and to make sure buyers' ffl would accept it from you? Either way, it's the buyer's problem now. He should have made sure of things before he bid.
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  • MooseyardMooseyard Member Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You have no requirement to send him an FFL. He (the buyers FFL)does need to have proof of where the gun came from though for his records. Usually a photocopy of your DL will meet that requirement. If the buyers FFL requires the item be shipped from an FFL, he either needs to find a different FFL, or have an FFL on your end ship it for you. Most will do this for a fee. The buyer needs to be responsible for that fee if his FFL doesn't accept the photocopy of your DL
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  • MrGunz22MrGunz22 Member Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've had a similar problem in the past. The law states that anyone can ship out of state as long as its to an FFL holder. However some guys will insist on one for the gun they are receiving and I completley understand why. If he's giving you a problem just get a local dealer to ship it and charge the buyer whatever fee you are charged. His problem not yours.
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Mooseyard
    You have no requirement to send him an FFL. He (the buyers FFL)does need to have proof of where the gun came from though for his records. Usually a photocopy of your DL will meet that requirement. If the buyers FFL requires the item be shipped from an FFL, he either needs to find a different FFL, or have an FFL on your end ship it for you. Most will do this for a fee. The buyer needs to be responsible for that fee if his FFL doesn't accept the photocopy of your DL
    That all hinges on your STATE laws. New York State dealers can only accept out-of-state firearms from FFL dealers.
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  • MooseyardMooseyard Member Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for the correction spider, I din't know that.
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  • Wolf.Wolf. Member Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    MrGunz22 quote:I've had a similar problem in the past. The law states that anyone can ship out of state as long as its to an FFL holder. However some guys will insist on one for the gun they are receiving and I completley understand why.WHY, then are many of the receiving FFL holders reluctant to receive shipments from an individual who has supplied all the required information. If the receiver has done his part, how can he be held responisible for anything?
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  • HerschelHerschel Member Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am an ffl dealer and I don't "completely understand why" a ffl dealer would insist on receiving interstate shipments only from another ffl dealer. Of course I am assuming there is not state law that requires interstate transfers only between ffl dealers in the receiving dealers state. I do my best to comply with federal regulation but don't add any special requirements beyond that. Twice in my life I have bought guns that I later learned were stolen. I bought both of these from ffl dealers whom I trusted and still am confident were honest and certainly not fences.
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  • JIM STARKJIM STARK Member Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Herschel
    I am an ffl dealer and I don't "completely understand why" a ffl dealer would insist on receiving interstate shipments only from another ffl dealer. Of course I am assuming there is not state law that requires interstate transfers only between ffl dealers in the receiving dealers state. I do my best to comply with federal regulation but don't add any special requirements beyond that. Twice in my life I have bought guns that I later learned were stolen. I bought both of these from ffl dealers whom I trusted and still am confident were honest and certainly not fences.

    What do you enter into your "bound book" in the aquisition column???
    JIM.........
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  • Spider7115Spider7115 Member Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wolf.
    MrGunz22 quote:I've had a similar problem in the past. The law states that anyone can ship out of state as long as its to an FFL holder. However some guys will insist on one for the gun they are receiving and I completley understand why.WHY, then are many of the receiving FFL holders reluctant to receive shipments from an individual who has supplied all the required information. If the receiver has done his part, how can he be held responisible for anything?
    An individual shipper could send a copy of anyone's driver's license. A signed copy of an FFL gives the dealer more evidence to cover his * in case the gun is stolen.
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