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1915 Lugar

gkirtleygkirtley Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
edited May 2008 in Ask the Experts
I was wanting to get an estimate on the value of a 1915 Lugar, in excellent condition. I know that I cannot get the exact value without someone actually looking at it, but a ballpark figure is all I am looking for right now.

If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I will send pictures if anyone wants, just send me your email address.

Thanks,

G. Kirtley

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    tsr1965tsr1965 Member Posts: 8,682 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is hard to ball park with out clear pictures, including the markings, and proof marks. If you follow the sticky at the top of the ask the experts forum, you can post pictures for us all to see. We have many bonified experts and collectors on here, with different areas of expertise.

    By the way...welcome to the forums!

    EDIT:
    Not sure of what else, but if you have any numbers on different parts, that would be good too, as it would tell us a story.
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    gkirtleygkirtley Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you for the welcome.

    I will have to wait till tonight to get a picture up. I am at work now, but tonight I will break out the camera and get some pics up. Are there any areas specifically that I should make sure to take pics of, obviously the markings, but anything else?

    Got it I will most likely have them up sometime after 2100hrs tonight, thats after I wrangle the kids into bed.
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    rhmc24rhmc24 Member Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You asked for ball park. Try Gun Broker auctions, just type in 1915 luger in the search box and you will see asking prices are over $1500. You also might try http://lugerforum.com/ where the luger specialists hang out.

    Hope this helps.
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    nmyersnmyers Member Posts: 16,879 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is still difficult, but getting better. Your photos need to be resized, as they are too small to see the fine detail. And, we need to see the top of the toggle; is there a script "DWM"? Also, look down the bore & describe the condition.

    At this point, if it's not refinished, I'm thinking it may be worth in the $1,200-1,500 range.

    Neal
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    perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,107 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello I don't know if you know how to TAKE-DOWN this pistol "take the top half off of the grip frame /bottom half" But from what I see I have reason to believe that your pistol has been refinished. To have that little wear ion a pistol over 90 years old .The pistols of the WW I should be rust blued not hot dipped blue. one way to tell this is to remove the barrel toggle from the grip frame . Then if you look the parts that are normally hidden when the pistol is together these exposed surfaces should be silver in color not blue/black if the inside is BLUE/BLACK then it is a refinished pistol and value would take a BIG hit.With the pistol, taken down you can also check the firing pin for matching seril last 2 digits and the condition of the bore.
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    gkirtleygkirtley Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Good news and bad news, the numbers all match. The barrel looks to be in good condition, no pitting, very dirty, but otherwise ok. The bolt as you described hidden metal parts when assembled are all also blued, not silver. Which I didn't expect. The markings are still extremely clear which I thought you would have lost some clarity if it were refinished. I think there has been only one owner since about 1945, but unfortunately I am unable to ask him about it. So hit me with the bad news...
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    drsckdrsck Member Posts: 992
    edited November -1
    It would appear that you have a pretty standard DWM 1915 luger. As others have suggested, it looks as though it has been refinished, but that doesn't destroy the value, just reduce it somewhat. How much is the issue. First, let me say that there are all sorts of prices for the same item. On the low end there is the price you could get if you wanted to sell it this minute. On the high end there is the price you would have to pay if you wanted to replace it this minute. In today's market, almost any luger is worth $800. If someone wanted your luger really badly, you might get them to go as high as $1100. There are a couple of things that could push the price a little higher. Are there any markings on the front strap? These would be unit markings and push the price higher. Also, does the serial number on the clip match the number on the pistol? If it does, that would push it up a little more. Essentially, you have a very nice pistol, even if it has been refinished. In light of the fact that they ain't making any more of 'em and there are more and more folks collecting every day, your's will only go up in value. Best of luck -- Steve.

    P.S. If you haven't already found the site, and want to see what some people think their 1915 DWM lugers are worth, check out www.Simpsonltd.com.
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    givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886
    edited November -1
    Reblue. Buffed down somewhat (curved edges). Notice the extractor? It left the factory "strawed"..that is, a faint rust-orange color. The front takedown lever, ejector on the R. side, safety lever and the trigger were also "strawed" when it left the factory. Joe
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    gkirtleygkirtley Member Posts: 6 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you all for your help. Now I know what to expect when I take it to someone in person to get appraized, not going in blind. The gun belongs to my cousin who is wanting to sell it. Of course depending on the fair market value I come up with I will be looking for buyers if anyone is interested please e-mail me at my home email address gkirtley@kc.rr.com

    Once again thanks for all your help

    Guy
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