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What is this bullet ??

nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
edited June 2005 in Ask the Experts
The smaller one is a 22 long rifle. The larger one looks just like it except it is much larger. Check out the photos.
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    ATFATF Member Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All I get is red Xs?





























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    BOBBYWINSBOBBYWINS Member Posts: 7,810
    edited November -1
    pics ain't workin'

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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pic worked in preview - don't know whats going on !!
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750 ✭
    edited November -1
    Looks to me like a .41 rimfire for the Remington Derringer.


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    p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750 ✭
    edited November -1
    How about some caliper measurements?


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    richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    Looks too long for 41 remington, My money says it is a 38 long rimfire.

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    heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Its difficult to tell without some measurements or some other cartridges next to it to compare.

    I agree it is too long for a 41 short.

    I vote for a 38 long or 32 long Winchester ("H" on the headstamp if I see it correctly) rimfire with a copper case. This would probably be an outside lubricated bullet with a blackpowder load.

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    1911a1-fan1911a1-fan Member Posts: 51,193 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would go for the .38, I have a few of the .41's they are much shorter as stated before, the h is more likely Winchester of new haven conn. But could also be a head stamp for
    Rheinische Metallwaren Maschinenfabrik, Dusseldorf Germany,and Hirtenberger Patronen Austria, but not likely, mic of the bullet head and you will know for sure
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    agostinoagostino Member Posts: 414 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Without a mic I can't be sure, but it looks like .44 Henry to me.
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    nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It is a 38 Cal.
    It is 1.35 inches long.
    It has a capital H on the bottom.
    How old do you think it is ?
    What firearms would this be for ?
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    heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hi,

    The 38 rimfire is an old, old, rimfire cartridge. Its origins date back to about the end of the Civil War circa, 1865.

    American companies stopped loading this cartridge in the late 1920's. Therefore, this cartridge can be bracketed between about 1865 to 1929. I really don't know enough to pin it down any closer. Hopefully, somebody will know.

    The original load for this round would be a 150 grain lead conical bullet with 18 grains of blackpowder. Other variations of the cartridge had 140 to 150 grain bullets and up to 21 grains of blackpowder.

    Accuracy from a rifle for this cartridge is reported to be fair.

    Regards,

    Heavyiron

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    heavyironheavyiron Member Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, I forgot to try to answer the last part of your question.

    Firearms would include the Remingon-Beals single shot rifle (manufactured from 1867 to 1875), the Remington revolving rifle of 1866, and also used in Allen, Ballard, Remington, Stevens, and Wesson rifles and also Enterprise, Favorite, Forehand&Wadsworth, and Colt revolvers according to Cartridges of the World.

    Regards,

    Heavyiron

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