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winchester 94 30-30

fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
edited June 2008 in Ask the Experts
Anyone have any idea when a 94 30-30 with sn: 3628069 was made?
Thank you!!!!
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just bought a winchester 94 30-30 from this auction site. Should get it in a couple day's I hope. It was manufactured in 1977. Is there anything I should Know about this rifle. Whats your opinion of it?

    Larry
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have purchased two winchester 94 30-30's. On one of them, the hammer cocks back twice when I don't cock the lever, and then when I do cock the lever, the hammer strikes the firing pin. The other winchester is an AE 30-30 and the hammer does not cock back twice and when I cock the lever it looks as though the hammer does not strike the firing pin.
    The AE model it supposed to be a 1990 model the the pther is a 1981 model.
    Is this normal, or is there something wrong with the AE model?
    I haven't been able to get out and test fire either.
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is the gun I mentioned in my other post. It's never been fired, still has the original oil/preservative on it from the factory. The box is worn from being moved around in the closet.

    Can anyone date it by the serial and put a value on it?

    Thanks

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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a Winchester 94 in a .30-30. Accoring to the serial # it was manufactured in 1956. The bluing is all original and is excellent. The wood is near perfect with just some indentations from over the years, not scratches the finish is not wore off at all anywhwere on the wood.

    How much is this rifle worth in value and what should I expect to get out of it from a dealer?
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Serial #2006114
    I was wondering if anyone could repost or tell me the age of this gun. Thank you.
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i also picked up a very nice 30-30 top ejection, winchester model 94. does any one know the value. there are no drill marks for a scope or anything altered on this gun. very nice shape. serial number is 1681XXX.
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    ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Do you mean when you cock the lever the hammer is falling on it's own or after you pull the trigger? If it falls on it's own after being cocked then something is broken and needs to be fixed. The AE has a rebounding hammer and yours sounds normal--older winchesters have a half cock notch in them-not so much for carrying around that way but to catch the hammer from falling on a loaded round if it were at full cock and for some reason it failed to stay cocked.
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by ruger41
    Do you mean when you cock the lever the hammer is falling on it's own or after you pull the trigger? If it falls on it's own after being cocked then something is broken and needs to be fixed. The AE has a rebounding hammer and yours sounds normal--older winchesters have a half cock notch in them-not so much for carrying around that way but to catch the hammer from falling on a loaded round if it were at full cock and for some reason it failed to stay cocked.

    On the AE, after I cock the lever, the hammer falls normally, but it doesn't seem to hit the firing pin.
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    CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The AE has a safety which blocks the hammer and it also has a half cock notch so the hammer does not rest on the firing pin. I must go look at my Winchesters to see if I am correct or not, its been awhile since I had them out of the safe.
    On the AE, if the safety is off, the hammer will hit the firing pin then rebound a few millimneters away from the firing pin. It may appear as if the hammer is not striking the firing pin, but if the safety is not in the way, it probably is, you just see it rebounding away from the pin.
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Chris8161
    The AE has a safety which blocks the hammer and it also has a half cock notch so the hammer does not rest on the firing pin. I must go look at my Winchesters to see if I am correct or not, its been awhile since I had them out of the safe.
    On the AE, if the safety is off, the hammer will hit the firing pin then rebound a few millimneters away from the firing pin. It may appear as if the hammer is not striking the firing pin, but if the safety is not in the way, it probably is, you just see it rebounding away from the pin.

    My AE does not have a safety. It also does not half a half-cock notch.
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    givettegivette Member Posts: 10,886 ✭
    edited November -1
    Rebounding hammer test:

    Check rifle unloaded. Cock the hammer. Put a smidge of something on the firing pin only..(perhaps a teeny little drop of whiteout, or magic marker, or some broad's lipstick). Fire it. Recock the hammer with your thumb. You will now see the whiteout (or whatever you use) on the hammer, indicating contact with the firing pin has been successuflly accomplished. Best, Joe
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    fishinalldayfishinallday Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Rebounding hammer test:

    Check rifle unloaded. Cock the hammer. Put a smidge of something on the firing pin only..(perhaps a teeny little drop of whiteout, or magic marker, or some broad's lipstick). Fire it. Recock the hammer with your thumb. You will now see the whiteout (or whatever you use) on the hammer, indicating contact with the firing pin has been successuflly accomplished. Best, Joe

    I tried this and it seems to work. I can see the hammer movevery quickly back after hitting the firing pin. I was just comparing it to the other model 94 that I have. I guess in 10 years Winchester made some modifications to the hammer action. or is it the fact that the AE works differently? When I pull the trigger on the AE, when the lever is not cocked, I can then push the hammer slightly more towards the firing pin. Is this normal? This is not the case with my 1981 model (not AE ). Sorry if these questions seem minor.
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    CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fishinallday
    quote:Originally posted by givette
    Rebounding hammer test:

    Check rifle unloaded. Cock the hammer. Put a smidge of something on the firing pin only..(perhaps a teeny little drop of whiteout, or magic marker, or some broad's lipstick). Fire it. Recock the hammer with your thumb. You will now see the whiteout (or whatever you use) on the hammer, indicating contact with the firing pin has been successuflly accomplished. Best, Joe

    I tried this and it seems to work. I can see the hammer movevery quickly back after hitting the firing pin. I was just comparing it to the other model 94 that I have. I guess in 10 years Winchester made some modifications to the hammer action. or is it the fact that the AE works differently? When I pull the trigger on the AE, when the lever is not cocked, I can then push the hammer slightly more towards the firing pin. Is this normal? This is not the case with my 1981 model (not AE ). Sorry if these questions seem minor.


    Perfectly normal...I had to dig my 94AE out of the safe to refresh my memory!
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