Identify 1866 Winchester Yellowboy

hunterpa

Guys desperately need your help in identifying a musket I just picked up. It looks like a Winchester 66 but the things that don't make sense to me are. The lower tang is teo pieces. A long piece connected to the receiver with an offset at the end where a small piece that has a matching offset overlaps it and the small piece then attaches to the butt stock with a wood screw. Also the side plates do not have a hole through them for a screw to retain the lever, the lever is just held in place with a roll pin under the side plates and doesn't extend through the plates. Also the side plates have a small hole drilled in then at the top center and they slide over small protrusion/studs on the top of the frame. The barrel is rifled and appears to be 44-40. No writing anywhere on the gun other than the serial number on the lower tang behind trigger 117816, which if a true winchester would set manufacture at 1873. I have rons of pictures I can send to anyone willing to help me identify it. Once I identify it I will sell it here on GB.
Any and all assistance will be appreciated.

Spider7115

Right above the title of your thread is a "sticky" entitled "Posting photographs":

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294

hunterpa

Spider I went to hunt101.com and registered, then did a search on upload and apparently lots of folks have the same problem. I do not have an UPLOAD button or selection on the top right of the screen when logged in. So not sure how to do it, can I load pictures directly here. If not as I said I can email them

perry shooter

Role pin not used Pre 1900 in any rifle I ever saw[?]You can send pictures direct to a member, just double click on user name then send a personal email.

nmyers

If you want to send me an email (click on my name & it will take you to my profile), I can send you my tutorial "PHOTO POSTING FOR THE COMPUTER CHALLENGED" as a Word file; it goes into a little more detail than the sticky on this forum.

FWIW, I use Photobucket or Snapfish, as I get pop-ups & spam alerts from the Hunt site, so I no longer access it.

Neal

rufe-snow

Are you sure that the receiver is brass, not made of pot metal= Zinc diecasting? About 20 years ago we were inundated with a bunch of pot metal replicas made in Spain.

hunterpa

I believe it is brass as a magnet doesn't stick to the frame and when i received it there were areas of neglect where there was green tarnish bad enough that i used brass polish on it and it is a GOLD color as brass would get when polished. Yeah I know about the cleaning of an old item but believe me it looks 1000% better now.

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nmyers

Looks like a Uberti 1866 musket:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=275538583

Neal

hunterpa

Not sure as I mentioned I have looked at hundres of images of 1866's and could find none that didn't have a screw all the way through the lower part of the side plates and through the finger lever. My plates have no hole in the bottom for a screw if you look at the photos. Plus none I looked at seem to have a hole near the top of them where the tab on the frame comes through to kind of index them. I have looked and looked at images for over a week and half to no avail. That's whay I am asking for help

Bert H.

It is a reproduction.

None of the original Winchester Model 1866 guns were chambered for the 44-40 cartridge. The vast number of them (99.9%) were chambered for the .44 Henry Flat. There were just a very scant few that were modified for the .44 Henry Center Fire Flat (in the late 1880s and early 1890s).