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ITHACA NID BARREL BULGE

HYMIKEHYMIKE Member Posts: 166 ✭✭✭
edited May 2014 in Ask the Experts
CAN A RING (BULGE) IN DOUBLE BARREL BE FIXED

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    charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,579 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pressing out a dent/ding, yes. Shrinking a bulge is a lot harder, perhaps a new tube could be found and fitted.
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    navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am not an expert. A bulge in a double barrel could probably be fixed, BUT, it would require taking the barrels apart and then re-joining - a very expensive fix. Depending on the size and location of the bulge, it could be safe to shoot. If anywhere near your hand I would be wary of it. Modern barrel steels (since the 1920's) are strong and ductile, which is why it bulged and did not burst.
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    perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,390
    edited November -1
    Think of it this way High pressure caused the BULGE. the BULGE is a result of the same amount of metal covering a larger diameter.Thus thinner wall thickness. Maybe you could ROLL a pipe smaller but how do you purpose splitting the barrels apart rolling the barrel back to size and then putting the barrels Back together without this costing More than Buying a complete set of barrels or even a new complete Gun.[?]
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    beantownshootahbeantownshootah Member Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by HYMIKE
    CAN A RING (BULGE) IN DOUBLE BARREL BE FIXED


    Yes, this is definitely technically possible. Typically the barrel is hammered back down into shape over a die. As above, the question isn't whether or not this "can" be done. . .the "real" questions are:

    1. Would the gun be safe to fire after doing this?

    2. Who could/would actually do this sort of repair, and

    2. Would it be cost effective to do it?

    Taking these in order, absolute working pressures in shotguns are actually fairly low (at least compared to other firearms), and once the shot gets past the first few inches of barrel pressures go way down.

    So, as long as the bulge here was pretty far down the tube, NOT close to the breech, and the bulge itself not terrible, a fix is probably OK from a safety standpoint. I think there is a lot of debate over this practice, but as a matter of practice, bulged shotgun barrels do get repaired all the time, and proper repairs do hold up.

    Whether or not this can be done to any given gun is a judgment that someone with a lot of experience would have to make ACTUALLY SEEING THE GUN IN QUESTION. Close inspection and perhaps even wall thickness measurement are necessary.

    As to who would/could do this, I don't think most gunsmiths would want to touch something like this. There are shotgun specialists who do these sorts of repairs, though no, I can't name/recommend any from personal experience. See below link for more info.

    On 3, I don't know the costs involved, but I think the answer depends on the gun in question. Only the owner can really decide if a repair will be worth the asking price. Again, someone experienced would have to look at the gun in question in person to see if a fix was possible, then estimate repair costs. If its a factory gun, contact the factory and see what they say.

    Here is a previous thread on the same topic: http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29754

    Repairing doubles, obviously, potentially costs more than singles. If the barrels have to be separated then re-attached, and re-regulated, that can add significantly to the costs involved. Whether or not its "worth it" depends on the cost of the job, the cost and value of the gun.

    I think in many cases it might not be worth it, especially since a repaired gun will never be worth quite as much as a non-bulged one. But sometimes guns have sentimental value that exceeds their market dollar value and that can be a factor too. Depending on the gun, it may be cheaper/easier to put in a new barrel or even maybe replace both barrels. Again, that's a discussion that needs to be had with the gun in the hands of a qualified repair person.
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    HYMIKEHYMIKE Member Posts: 166 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    BEANTOWNSHOOTAH THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO
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