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Don McManus
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Trump, Schumer and Pelosi just agreed upon spending $ 2 trillion.
They are going to meet later to decide what to spend it on.
The swamp lives.
They are going to meet later to decide what to spend it on.
The swamp lives.
Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.
Brad Steele
Brad Steele
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Same ole crap, divert the money come to trough to get more.
What the heck, it's only 10% :roll:
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
He is falling for the old (R) weakness of mollifying the libtards, bad move IMO.
Trump is as much a part of this problem as are the Dems.
Just as Reagan did with O'Neil, Trump is attempting to purchase bi-partisanship.
If this kind of crap takes hold, eventually, just as Reagan did, Trump, if he gains a second term, could increase the national debt by the greatest percentage of any President in the modern era.
Brad Steele
So how do you pay for that without spending 2 trillion dollars?
Lots of companies are using those roads to deliver goods so maybe they can help pony up LOL
Really? Trump had that plan in his opening speech .
What plan? Increasing the national debt by historic levels?
Is that really a plan?
Brad Steele
The Prez tried the freeze out and turned around and paid off the furloughed tenured employees. When I do not work I get no pay. I find another gig, and move on.
But alas I had forgotten the poor migrant who tunnels their way under the wall needs to be fed and clothed, sheltered.
You know one thing that the Soviet Union did well was Guard the Berlin Wall.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
When Obama DOUBLED the national debt and created the wasteful porkuous package, crickets chirped.
Crickets? None so boisterous as we here on this forum over that.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
He was roundly criticized for it.
As was Reagan when he almost TRIPLED the national debt.
Somehow we are supposed to believe that a Trump/Schumer/Pelosi porkulous is going to be better than the Obama version?
It is all irresponsible, particularly when they pull a number out of their butts and then go about looking for ways to spend it.
And pay for it. Yeah, they stated that needed to find a way to pay for it.... :roll:
Brad Steele
I don't know how we would ever get a balanced budget amendment ratified these days. Not that it would matter much anyway. Whose numbers would anyone believe that it was, in fact, balanced?
I always think of that movie "Dave" where they had a lookalike stand in for a sick president, and he called up his tax accountant buddy to help balance the books and he began vetoing line items like money doled out to consumers to make them feel good for their domestic auto purchase.
I recall presidential candidate McCain getting hammered for his debate comments about wanting to take a hatchet to the budget (not that I ever believed he would do it)... it's so necessary it's not funny tho.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
This is a perfect example of falling for a cult of personality, and losing control of one's mental faculties in the process.
Good God man, do you not understand we do NOT have the money to do this with,....NO MATTER WHO DOES IT????
WOW,...Simply amazing!!!
One concept I heard was along the lines of having enough cash to make the transactions of day to day commerce.
If only 6 chickens exist for trade currency, and 10 transactions in 10 locations needed to be done, there were just not enough chickens to represent the commerce needed at the time.
I know it sounds a bit corny, lol, but there may be some truth to it. So now we have virtual money, or basically just a tracking system for the work we do. I like to barter, but other times the person does not have what I want, so how would I bank my "credits" without the tracking system.
That is what I suspect is the reason the money handlers don't care about deficit or debt, they make a cut of it all.
I will be willing to bet that in the future, inheritance on the positive side of the balance sheet will become scarce. The new generations only know debt and will die with debt.
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
A TENTATIVE agreement to repair the infrastructure in the USA.
Far better than spending $$ overseas to countries that don't like us OTHER than for the $$$ we GIVE them.
Congress holds the purse strings so neither Trump, Pelosi nor Schumer can spend a penny w/o congressional funding approval.
Trump is a shrewd business person with cost/benefit and fiscal responsibility experience so I will wait and see what the outcome of their further meeting in a few weeks produces for presentation to Congress for funding.
UNTIL THEN, no point in getting ones' panties in a wad.
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
Several points.
I served under the peanut farmer and later Reagan. You have to go back before WWI to compare how weak and unprepared our national defense was. An all volunteer force, no draft and draft wages. Morale sucked and our GIs were bailing. Reagan fixed that and at the same time he fixed the cold war. For most of us, at least those who cared about national defense saw something tangible from Reagans spending.
Obama stimulus package was nothing more than welfare, both corporate and individual. He was lauded by the media, especially for the "Making work pay credit". Little if any of the money went to infrastructure. Conversely Trump is being dammed by the same people in the media whom praised Obama for doing the same thing.
Could not agree more with you on the debt. I too am pissed about it, however no one in Washington gives a crap about debt anymore: Both parties.
The only difference is how or where they spend the money.
I seriously doubt our national debt will ever be a concern for a 100 years into the future. If so the debt problem would have been fixed years ago.
Looking at the debt problem in a relative sense, I predict the only solution will be.....at lease for debt incurred by the US Government will be absolution and forgiveness.