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kimi
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I'm working on a genealogy situation that involves two men in the same house with the same first and last name. One man is noted as the son of the head of the house, but the other one's relationship to him is not stated. In later records a nickname, aka a call name, sometimes appears for one of these men. In your opinion or experience, are nicknames/call names in such a situation generally used by the older man or the younger one?
(This includes you, too, Don. James)
(This includes you, too, Don. James)
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If the nickname is junior, he is the son.
Don
Brad Steele
The exact age of these men are unknown, however, they were both men prior to the Revolutionary War.
In my experience, I had an Uncle who was called Will, and he had a son with the same first name as his, which was Willie.
I had a couple when younger some have followed me all thru life .
my wife's family including my wife ,, good gosh every one , man , woman and child has a nick name no where close to there real name and bestowed on them as kids from other family members some I never knew there real name .
Yep.
I remember "Pug." (Bull necked football player.) Couple years ahead of me. Scared of him, till I worked the night shift at a tobacco warehouse with him. Made a good gun trade, for both of us.
Many others.
TRAP, this particular nickname is also Will, but a shortened version of William. The evidence that surrounds this man also suggests that he is the older of the two Williams, but what you mention about the younger person getting the nickname makes a lot of sense, too.
One thought that comes to my mind right now is that should a father, for example, be known by a shortened version of his given name, then a son is born and named after his father would be called by his full first name.
In your family, the name Dave would not be short for David, would it?
The older John spells his name "Jon" and the younger "John". Both were born in the 40's and to this day the family always calls Jon; Jonny Hall and John: Johnny Mike. Mike is John's middle name. I got more of a kick out of that old TV show "Newhart" where the line; this is my brother Daryl and my other brother Daryl.
I post this just to show how not all of the same family names pertain to just father\son\grandparent situations.
The way your nickname evolved makes a lot of sense.
It was your response that helped me to start thinking about more possibilities about nicknames that are similar to shortened versions of given names, rather than those such as Pug, Punk, Pea, or Rooster, etc. (My father in his childhood was known as Pea Jake or Pea, and one old time deer hunter always called me Rooster.) It got me to thinking about my grandson whom the family calls JW...since our son always went by his full first name.
Thank you, TRAP!
One of my aunts married a Punk Hall!