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U.S. to take steps against white supremacists and militia groups!

serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2021 in Politics

I wonder if the first and second amendment of our Constitution will end up like The 4th amendment ? Abridged for the sake of safety and peace of society.

Hell, they can't even control violent crime anymore with The De-funding of local police. Minority run cities are failing because of it too! So if they think you are a racist then the next conclusion you are a terrorist?

serf

https://news.trust.org/item/20210615095944-jiv6u

The Defense Department review is looking at, among other things, how to define extremists, the senior administration official said.

"They are doing this in a way they feel ratchets up the protection but also respects expression and association protections," the official said.

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  • TXBryanTXBryan Member Posts: 26 ✭✭

    Admitting confusion I thought Uncle Joe said the Joint Chiefs agreed climate change was the number one threat to the United States. Apparently the chairman of the JCS walked that back a bit but "the president" said it so it must be so. Now the Pentagon is concentrating on white supremacists? Meanwhile China is expanding their territorial claims all over the South China Sea and Russia continues to destabilize everything it touches not to mention messing with the U.S. gasoline and beef supply. I'll be patient while the current administration figures out a plausible link between climate change and white extremists; surely there must be one.

    Every day I think it can't get much stranger but somehow the ruling class figures out a way to impress. Does it seem sometimes like surely you'll wake up and realize all this was a bad dream? Let's hope some mired in the swamp can continue to do damage-control until the mid-terms.

    Elko County, NV passed an interesting resolution this week designed to protect residents from federal encroachment on Constitutionally-protected rights. You can read it here https://www.aclu.org/other/community-resolution-elko-nv

    Apologies for this being an ACLU site but it's the only place I could find it posted. There is a school of thought that returning to the kind of country most of us remember, and long for, may best be processed through counties and states rather than expecting any kind of meaningful federal reforms. Small craft change direction more quickly than large ships.

  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,718 ✭✭✭✭

    Just another red herring IMHO.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,734 ✭✭✭✭

    They'll target those who challenged the 2020 election, those who own guns, those who don't follow the liberal agenda, or anyone who might challenge their "conversion" of America.

  • Floyd621Floyd621 Member Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭✭

    Yepp.. nailed it... it's gonna get rough...

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭

    FYI ,

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This disengagement may be spurred by the large mainstream social media deplatformingof QAnon content based on social media companies’ own determinations that users have violated terms of service,and the failure of long-promised QAnon-linkedeventsto materialize. Some DVEs have discussed how to radicalize new users to niche social media platforms following QAnon adherents’ migration to these platforms after large scale removals of QAnon content from mainstream sites. Adherence toQAnonby some DVEslikely will be affected by factors such as the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic, the level of societal polarization in the United States, social media companies’ willingness to host QAnon-related content on their sites, and the frequency and content of pro-QAnon statements by public individuals who feature prominently

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