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Agent orange

evileye fleagalevileye fleagal Member Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭
My dad serverd as a FAC in the Marines amoung other things, he cleaned tanks that contained this chemical. I hear the VA is assisting offspring of vets that suffer from Spin Bifida with some kind of government aid. Is anyone aware of something like this or have information to guide me in this matter.

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  • cercer Member Posts: 826 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go to your local VA office, or get in contact with a Veterans Orginazion.
  • steamingutpilesteamingutpile Member Posts: 65 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know if you were there and have since developed type 2 dibetes disability is automatic. the other stuff i don't know in NY your contact is a NYS Vet Rep they handle all the paperwork and know what all is and isn't covered
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Check here gives some info.

    http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/benefits/herbicide/aono1.htm

    This is what is listed there.

    quote:In addition, monetary benefits, health care and vocational rehabilitation services are provided to Vietnam veterans' offspring with spina bifida, a congenital birth defect of the spine. Children of female veterans who served in Vietnam are authorized health care and monetary benefits for certain additional birth defects.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,429 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No matter what you or your kids come down with, always say the magic words, "I was exposed to Agent Orange."
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • steamingutpilesteamingutpile Member Posts: 65 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Even after they stopped spraying the stuff we were all exposed. Think about it! Where did our drinking water come from? Purification didn't remove dioxin And all that poop percolated into ground water then into the streams. LSB Nha Be got its water from the Mekong River. In fact our shower water came straight from the river untouched. The water in the Head wether from a sink or shower was mud brown. And everywhere in the head was stenciled NON POTABLE WATER. And we had to brush our teeth with it!!!
  • mcasomcaso Member Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There appears to be a connection with testicular cancer. If anyone has any info on this please post it.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mcaso
    There appears to be a connection with testicular cancer. If anyone has any info on this please post it.


    Read up on this page, it did not list what you are looking for.

    http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/diseases.asp
  • mcasomcaso Member Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    yes, but the cancernetwork.com chapter 18 says "Reports have suggested an increase of testicular cancer among individuals expossed to exogenous toxins such as agent orange and solvents used to clean jets." I believe this type of cancer is called "soft-tissue sarcoma" which is listed.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    solvents used to clean jets

    Actually it was Almost all Solvents. The ones they used in Parts Cleaning tanks. MT, Engineer, Ord all used that type of Solvent. Caused lots of Birth defects from what I remember.

    Know I used to wash my hands in the stuff before going to lunch or Dinner. It took a couple of years after I retired before I got any Fat in my hands. They showed every tendon and Muscle while I was in.

    Think they changed sometime around 1990 to a more freindly solvent and then they still required you use gloves. The AirCraft Solvent MEK was stoped I think in the early 80's.
  • korsakovkorsakov Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dnelson457
    solvents used to clean jets

    Actually it was Almost all Solvents. The ones they used in Parts Cleaning tanks. MT, Engineer, Ord all used that type of Solvent. Caused lots of Birth defects from what I remember.

    Know I used to wash my hands in the stuff before going to lunch or Dinner. It took a couple of years after I retired before I got any Fat in my hands. They showed every tendon and Muscle while I was in.

    Think they changed sometime around 1990 to a more freindly solvent and then they still required you use gloves. The AirCraft Solvent MEK was stoped I think in the early 80's.


    It's funny you mentioned these chemicals. I served two years in southeast asia in the late 60's and we used the stuff to clean guns, mostly gun pods, without any type of protection including ventalation. We would cut the top of a 55 gallon can and drop the parts in and let them soak. Then we'd hand clean all the parts until the powder was off all the parts. In those days nobody even thought of respirators, gloves or any type of protection. Somebody tell me the name of the stuff? We would set in the hooch cleaning gun parts and breathing the crappy stuff for days. I can't remember the name and hope someone will.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm almost positive what you were using was.


    quote:Methyl ethyl ketone is used as a solvent. Acute (short-term) inhalation exposure to methyl ethyl ketone in humans results in irritation to the eyes, nose, and throat. Limited information is available on the chronic (long-term) effects of methyl ethyl ketone in humans. Chronic inhalation studies in animals have reported slight neurological, liver, kidney, and respiratory effects. No information is available on the developmental, reproductive, or carcinogenic effects of methyl ethyl ketone in humans. Developmental effects, including decreased fetal weight and fetal malformations, have been reported in mice and rats exposed to methyl ethyl ketone via inhalation and ingestion. EPA has classified methyl ethyl ketone as a Group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.
  • korsakovkorsakov Member Posts: 13 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dnelson457
    I'm almost positive what you were using was.


    quote:Methyl ethyl ketone is used as a solvent. Acute (short-term) inhalation exposure to methyl ethyl ketone in humans results in irritation to the eyes, nose, and throat. Limited information is available on the chronic (long-term) effects of methyl ethyl ketone in humans. Chronic inhalation studies in animals have reported slight neurological, liver, kidney, and respiratory effects. No information is available on the developmental, reproductive, or carcinogenic effects of methyl ethyl ketone in humans. Developmental effects, including decreased fetal weight and fetal malformations, have been reported in mice and rats exposed to methyl ethyl ketone via inhalation and ingestion. EPA has classified methyl ethyl ketone as a Group D, not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.


    I don't think that's it. I did some research on it and it's not been banned. The stuff we used was banned from manufacture in the mid 70's. My recollection is the stuff we used started with something like TETRA...something like that anyway.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,429 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Carbon tertrachloride? Commonly called "carbon tet" it was a common nonflammable solvent and was even used in fire extinguishers - except that upon exposure to flames, it broke down and emitted mustard gas!
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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