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People Kill People, Not Guns-protect gun rights

freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
Such a common sense notion as the fact that "people kill people, not guns" should be able inspire a movement to protect gun rights and other rights. I'm working to start a movement based on that concept because it appears psychology is quite unable to do anything effective. In light of that, I did my own research over some years and developed a comprehensive perspective that is hopefully appreciated.

If you are a gun owner, an American who feels a need to protect your Constitutional rights, perhaps a common sense concept is not beyond you. Perhaps social fears do not control you, or your respect for the Constitution is greater, and something different can be considered to deal with this issue.

The concept is that extreme violence with guns is being used to justify more and more gun laws compromising Constitutional rights, accordingly addressing the behavior of extreme violence is more direct and more respectful of the Constitution. It makes more sense.

In examining the human potential for extreme violence, I realized that human beings are basically controlled by their unconscious mind. Anger is definitely a cause of a great deal of gun violence and its totally unreasonable manifestation in violence. Human beings have an animal mind that the laws of society seek to limit and control.

Many situations can lead to anger. Each of those has their own issues that relate to the anger that is felt which impels the person to an action, if that is what they are going to do. If they pick up a gun and start killing people, then the anti gun folks get to use their behavior within the emotional reasoning that commonly used to justify knee jerk legislation and more restriction/compromise of Constitutional rights.

I've developed an alternative treatment to all the nonsense that psychology attempts which basically gets directly to the unconscious mind. Once there, all that is needed is an advanced understanding of psychology and human instinct to create a script which is spoken to the individual.

Many states have laws compelling municipalities to work with the public in the development of investigational or experimental treatments IF there is a threat to lives. This treatment will work well with drug addiction and alcoholism, which in itself is often involved in gun violence.

To try and get organized support for this I've sent letters to Dudley Brown and Congressman Paul Broun, M.D..

If you can understand that this is the most direct approach for protecting gun rights and are willing to help, write your representative and urge them to contact Dr. Broun and support the concept of addressing the violent behavior directly.

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

I believe Dudley Brown can be contacted here,

Dudley Brown <dudley.brown@nationalgunrights.org>

One can also contact nationalgunrights.org and perhaps leave a comment on their blog.

http://nationalgunrights.org/blog/

Since politics are so out of control these days, it seems logical to do the one thing we can do which is work more directly to address our own behaviors as citizens that government erroneously works to correct with evermore laws and control.

Be well fellow Americans.

Comments

  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    wpage Posted - 02/07/2010:
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.

    In fact I think its the last thing gov wants. If we could control ourselves, we might control it.

    What is surprising is that it seems the last thing gunowners will relate to in activism to protect 2nd amendment rights. Excepting your wise-self of course.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:I've developed an alternative treatment to all the nonsense that psychology attempts which basically gets directly to the unconscious mind. Once there, all that is needed is an advanced understanding of psychology and human instinct to create a script which is spoken to the individual.

    Perhaps you might explain a bit about exactly what you intend doing...once you penetrate the unconscious mind.

    'Advanced understanding' can cover LOTS of ground...depending upon who does the script.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I've developed an alternative treatment to all the nonsense that psychology attempts which basically gets directly to the unconscious mind. Once there, all that is needed is an advanced understanding of psychology and human instinct to create a script which is spoken to the individual.


    Highball wrote:
    Perhaps you might explain a bit about exactly what you intend doing...once you penetrate the unconscious mind.

    I understand your question well. Allow me to define parameters and relationships first.

    We are unconscious 24/7 for our entire lives. For around 1/3 of our live we are exclusively unconscious.

    We have conscious moments, or episodes of what is known as "rational thinking".


    What the unconscious mind of the subject gets bypasses the critical thinking of the subject, defective in this case, with correct thinking for their longest term biological and psychological benefit.

    Accepting that we can know that about each other is a matter of understanding the "Maslowian heirarchy" of values.

    That correct thinking, because it is "knowledge of living" (as you have processes for) in a certain way, the import of the script, goes directly to the long term memory and is limbically associated, historically correct, the person uses instincts that are positive rather than negative.

    Deep psychological abuse, creating violence problems is another issue that needs to be addressed in stages countered specifically. Such a need will be exposed during evaluation and automatically incorporated to degrees and with sequencing assuring the greatest success and complete recovery.

    Human beings really do want to live. It might be said they need to or they just don't feel right about what they are doing.

    If they don't there are reasons. Trauma and obsession with limbic response patterns are easily broken by group interactions and post hypnotic performance. Such is the type reason that rituals were invented in human society to begin with.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Let me add that conditional instructions are given that connect naturally to normal, safe behaviors and functional happiness via fundamental instinct.

    They are also general, or re applied everyday from the unconscious. The instruction, upon conditions, can progress and institute major thought and life changes that are fully open to the individuals own and unique procesess of growth.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Well, freedomfighter;
    I have read that over several times and just purely decided it is out of my league.
    Thanks for posting it.
    I expect I will resist being subjected to the 'treatment'..if ever such is offered.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball, you seem to have no need of such treatment. Many people don't. Just posting your question shows you are better than "okay", you're right on!

    My point being that you sensed and reacted to the complexities I indicate psychologically dictate behaviors between the conscious and the unconscious mind or how influence might be applied. Some seriously need it.

    There are some real wrecks walking around and the pills the psychiatrists and psychologists give them seem to actually make it worse.

    Most importantly that such a treatment be available. The County Mental Health department gave about as much a defacto approval as one might expect with someone such as myself without degrees in medicine making such a proposal with their letter to me in September of 1999.

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    Or . . . my proposal met their standards and they were willing to "carry it forward" to the statemental health department.

    In 2000 I knew that this treatment will protect all people from behaviors, their own or anothers.

    A FOIA was filed to get that "response in writing".

    They purged it from their records and federal courts secretly abrogate pro se rights in the 9th circuit.

    These folks got to be working the other side of the fence from those claiming guns need to be controlled because of extreme violence with them

    Flat out. If we show we can control ourselves, we can control them. It's the LAST thing they want.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I would think that a few here resent being regulated and controlled in all the ways our errant governemnt does and see fit to take exception to the government violating laws that they have to operate under. When failing to follow those laws causes immense suffering and gets people killed, that should be enough.

    Look at all the petty ordinances you can be cited for which you must pay a fine if violated.

    Here are 2 issues and their pages or sites where government is violating laws that creates huge costs and causes a loss of life and property.

    The details on the experimental treatment that saw defacto approval by my local mental health department.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/thetreatment.html

    Here is a site that has my legal efforts to compel the municipality to follow laws and treat the public with an appropriate treatment.

    http://algoxy.com/law/

    What we find is serious trickery from the supreme court in order to avoid the issue.
    That is AFTER the 9th circuit creates local court rule designed to be abrogated with a branch holding the essence of pro se civil rights, access to courts being CUT OFF secretly in 2005!

    Yes, secretely. No note of the revision has been placed in the rules as is law. No public notice of the major change to the local rules was provided as the administrative office of the US courts requires. No public comment and review was provided as the administrave office mandates.
  • cccoopercccooper Member Posts: 4,044 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.


    I agree. We are not governed by intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning people. We are governed by namby pamby pantywaists that make decisions based on feelings and emotions. (Sometimes on Science that has not been peer reviewed or validated.)

    Doomed.[:(!]
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Problem is government is run by lawyers.
    When lawyers get involved in rights. They take yours away. Lawyers understand ways to protect their own right.
  • freedomfighterfreedomfighter Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by cccooper
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.


    I agree. We are not governed by intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning people. We are governed by namby pamby pantywaists that make decisions based on feelings and emotions. (Sometimes on Science that has not been peer reviewed or validated.)

    Doomed.[:(!]


    Hmmm, another behavioral problem. The treatment can at least supress their obsession with control.

    People that are not intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning cannot hold positions of authority. All that needs to be done is a proper test for each be devised and presented with a petition and witnesses signing proof of delievery. If the test is based on a specific instance of mental performance of record that is questionable, is named in the petition, it is justified.
    A copy should be presented with witnesses signing proof of delivery to the director of the personel department.
    Announcement of the action should be made to the county board of supervisors with copies submitted to the clerk of the board.
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