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quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]
When it comes to living life, you are either predator or prey.
At least that was how the US Army explained it to me. It worked out well, and I decided to follow thru with it. [^]
But....think of me as a kind, caring and compassionate, predator. [;)]
I don't look at YOU as predatory, dano. Far from it.
I look at the government whos leg you hump, as predatory. You are more of a 'I vus yust following orders' type, to me.
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
Oh my.[:0]
As in "Why do I need government OK to exercise a God given right?" correct?
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
I am on the right side of things. That is all.
Bottom line, you're ridin the ole gravy train for all it's worth.
You can try as hard as you like, to describe it as something other than what it is, but at the end of the day, the conductor is gonna come by and ask for your ticket. [;)]
You are either on the train, or you're not.
I'm thinkin you are soooooooo on the train. [:D]
An absolutely perfect illustration of the abject failure of one with a pro-collectivist government 'Law Enforcement' mentality to even comprehend the 'Peace Officer' ethic and the proper role of police in society.
Thank you, sir, for your contribution to making this massive distinction.[;)][:)]
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]
You really think all those 86 million are doing anything to promote the 2nd and they're not in the NRA because of an informed decision instead of apathy, laziness or "I don't wanna spend $25.00 a year? Not hardly.
How many gun owners voted for Obama - lots. How many vote "on other issues" - lots. Try posting this - "I vote on gun rights only" and see how much disagreement and ridicule pops up.
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.
What I see with most of those gun owners is apathy. When SF voted on a handgun ban a few years back I bugged the hell out of gun owners to vote, some I talked to afterwards didn't even bother.
But I could be wrong and if so, someone should be able to get some of that 10% and start their own group - that would scare the hell out of NRA and make them change their tune, wouldn't it?
If people have a better idea they should sell it. I'd to see NRA with their 4 million and another organization with their 5 million or 2 million. Mostly I'd like to see 90 million people saying "don't touch my guns" like the old folks say "don't touch social security" and getting the same results.
quote:Originally posted by wpage
The NRA like Godzilla is not bad. Simply misunderstood.
No, it is bad and it is willfully eroding liberty and deliberately misconstruing Amendment II, cementing that twisted version into the accepted main-stream of America.
There is no misunderstanding at all, to a thinking man.
The only misunderstood aspect of the NRA is that seen by it adoring members and supporters, who seemingly don't have any original thought and who are abjectly ignorant of Amendment II and the reasons for which it was enumerated.
Not surprising, the nra needs to stay out of politics and just handle firearms training and gun insurance and leave the politics to un-compromising pro 2A/RKBA organizations like the GOA.
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How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
Oh my.[:0]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Rosie
496 how long did it take you to look up the word "SYCOPHANT?" You seem to have fallen in love with it. Keep squeking little ant. You will never get up to a roar but you may make it up to a grunt little feller. Poor little guy. No life at all except to get on an internet forum and scream and yell trying to get attention. Bless his little heart. I feel so sorry for him.
Gee-whiz, Rosie, that sure put me in my place, huh?[:)]
Now that you've shown another bout of duck, dodge, side-step, bob & weave, how about stepping up and telling us why you support the erosion of individual liberty.
As for the word 'sycophant' I use it in relation to you and the other NRA-zombies because it is a perfect fit.
I didn't define how slack-jaw, drooling, slope-headed, kool-aid drinking, blind adherent, fits you, since with every post you make, you are fleshing those descriptors out, all by yourself.
Carry on with my work, Rosie,or,you could quit while you are behind.[:)]
Do you even know what sycophant means.....I mean before you looked it up in the dictionary, and decided to give it a shot? [:X]
Nope, sure didn't.
I did, however, know what a predatory government, leg-humping jack-booted thug was. I learned that from reading your views.[:)]
When it comes to living life, you are either predator or prey.
At least that was how the US Army explained it to me. It worked out well, and I decided to follow thru with it. [^]
But....think of me as a kind, caring and compassionate, predator. [;)]
I don't look at YOU as predatory, dano. Far from it.
I look at the government whos leg you hump, as predatory. You are more of a 'I vus yust following orders' type, to me.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?
None.[:(!] Witness 130 million morons voting for more of the SOS in potus '08.
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by Charles Johnson
How much freaking evidence is needed?!!!
It's like trying to convince OJ"s jury.
Frankly they warrant the same degree of respect.
That's pretty much where I find myself when dealing with this crowd.
Unbelievable and a perfect illustration of how easily manipulated many are...
Any questions as to how the Republic has been destroyed?
None.[:(!] Witness 130 million morons voting for more of the SOS in potus '08.
and will again in 2012[V]
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
I am on the right side of things. That is all.
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
quote:Originally posted by ruger41
....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
A Kali 'gun-owner' viewing the RKBA as the NRA does and viewing the NRA as an Amendment II defender, what a shocker.[:0]
So what does the parentheses mean - I'm not a gun owner? Then what are all those FALs, ARs, Springields and Robinsons doing in my gun room .... [8D] Maybe I'm not a "real" gun owner because I'm in CA, I guess I was one when I was growing up in New Hampshire, right? I was one when I got my first LTC when I was 18, when I got my UT non-res permit.
Nice try - back on the stoop for you - crack open another OE.[;)]
Missed it, by a country-mile....Much like you seemingly have difficulty equating NRA actions and your support of them, with the intent of Amendment II.
Oh my.[:0]
As in "Why do I need government OK to exercise a God given right?" correct?
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Originally posted by dano
quote:Originally posted by lt496
quote:Last time I checked, ALL LE agencies, depts. etc., work for some form of a government, be it county, state or Federal.
Well, dano, the difference is that some embrace the predatory controlling, anti-liberty enforcement nature of government, and some of us resist and reject it from within.
You and I have laid out our respective positions on this point, long ago.[;)]
Point is....you still work for a government. [;)]
Is the gravy thick enough for ya? [:p]
That provides no cover at all for what you've advocated previously. [;)]
I am on the right side of things. That is all.
Bottom line, you're ridin the ole gravy train for all it's worth.
You can try as hard as you like, to describe it as something other than what it is, but at the end of the day, the conductor is gonna come by and ask for your ticket. [;)]
You are either on the train, or you're not.
I'm thinkin you are soooooooo on the train. [:D]
An absolutely perfect illustration of the abject failure of one with a pro-collectivist government 'Law Enforcement' mentality to even comprehend the 'Peace Officer' ethic and the proper role of police in society.
Thank you, sir, for your contribution to making this massive distinction.[;)][:)]
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....still blindly follow the NRA and are adamant that none of the other gun rights organizations are worth a plug nickel just because they "don't have the 4 million gun owners supporting them."
Maybe point out the 86 million gunowners who don't belong.
Now just what could the reason be? Oh yea, they are ALL lazy and expect trfaux to save their guns for them, uh-huh. It couldn't have anything to do with factual proven history of anti-gun NRA.
86 million gun owners not belonging pretty much makes them the gun equivilent of the Cadillac driving, food stamp spending welfare cases getting a free ride while others foot the bill, doncha think? [:0] But instead of sitting on the stoop all day drinking Cisco or OE 800 and griping about how tough life is they're hanging out at the gun store beeatching about NRA.
Wait a sec, they're not drinking OE 800 - it's just whine ....
Gotta go - NRA and CRPA are in court now fighting with the city of San Francisco over another one of their crappy little bans. Must be a different NRA though, right?
No fletcher, it's the same NRA that will work out a deal to eliminate the ban, as long as everybody takes an NRA course, for a fee. See how with the beast, one hand washes the other, all the while convincing 4.5% of gunowners that they are defending their "gunrights". Since it is estimated that 35% of the population has a mental disability (you) I'd say 95.5 percent of gunowners is considerably above the average norm. Kudos to all of gunowners for being some of the most intelligent people in the world. Then, to those who claim to be gunowners, "Knock it off! Your blowing our chance at 100!"[:(!]
You really think all those 86 million are doing anything to promote the 2nd and they're not in the NRA because of an informed decision instead of apathy, laziness or "I don't wanna spend $25.00 a year? Not hardly.
How many gun owners voted for Obama - lots. How many vote "on other issues" - lots. Try posting this - "I vote on gun rights only" and see how much disagreement and ridicule pops up.
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
If you think there are 86 million gun owners out there who believe as you do AND think the NRA sucks, get 2% of them together - start your own group, kick the NRA's fanny.
fletch, just sayin', 95% of gunowners do not join a worthelss and even detrimental oragnization let's say even 10% of those do it because they know the truth. That's still twice as many as those who drink the sad kool aid they are giving out.
What I see with most of those gun owners is apathy. When SF voted on a handgun ban a few years back I bugged the hell out of gun owners to vote, some I talked to afterwards didn't even bother.
But I could be wrong and if so, someone should be able to get some of that 10% and start their own group - that would scare the hell out of NRA and make them change their tune, wouldn't it?
If people have a better idea they should sell it. I'd to see NRA with their 4 million and another organization with their 5 million or 2 million. Mostly I'd like to see 90 million people saying "don't touch my guns" like the old folks say "don't touch social security" and getting the same results.
The NRA like Godzilla is not bad. Simply misunderstood.
No, it is bad and it is willfully eroding liberty and deliberately misconstruing Amendment II, cementing that twisted version into the accepted main-stream of America.
There is no misunderstanding at all, to a thinking man.
The only misunderstood aspect of the NRA is that seen by it adoring members and supporters, who seemingly don't have any original thought and who are abjectly ignorant of Amendment II and the reasons for which it was enumerated.