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2nd Amendment Club in High Schools
spawnofthenet
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Hey,
I was just wondering what your thoughts were on a situation my younger brother was having in his High School. He lives in Michigan and approached his school administration with a proposal to start a second amendment enthusiasts club. They replied with a resounding "No!" I understand that columbine is an issue now-a-days, but the kids mostly wanted to just talk about some of the issues that face America today in an open forum and a good place to do that, they thought, was in a club setting. They would like to eventually start a riflery club too, but again, the school is ardently opposed to any sort of advocation of such organizations. They aren't asking to bring guns to school or anything. I guess I just don't see the harm!
Your thoughts?
A-Dub
I was just wondering what your thoughts were on a situation my younger brother was having in his High School. He lives in Michigan and approached his school administration with a proposal to start a second amendment enthusiasts club. They replied with a resounding "No!" I understand that columbine is an issue now-a-days, but the kids mostly wanted to just talk about some of the issues that face America today in an open forum and a good place to do that, they thought, was in a club setting. They would like to eventually start a riflery club too, but again, the school is ardently opposed to any sort of advocation of such organizations. They aren't asking to bring guns to school or anything. I guess I just don't see the harm!
Your thoughts?
A-Dub
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Public schools are fedgov propaganda camps. They exist primarily to reprogram children away from the teaching of parents. Their aim is to teach a love of government.
The Second Amendment is all about freedom. Freedom from tyranny.The freedom to tell the government to go to hell..some of these days when government crosses that last line....
Naturally, teaching this in the heart of a Socialist camp is forbidden.
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
I think the situation is a blast at the constitution...try this...have your younger brother approach the same people with a 1st amendment club (or any other amendment) and see what they say. Depending on the outcome make an issue of it....i.e. if they go for it make an issue to the state (and higher and don't leave out nationwide coverage) that his school put different amendments ahead of others and it is bias towards people that support the 2nd amendment....if the scholl shuts down all, then go at them with the angle that they don't support the constitution and should have their state and federal funding cut because of it.
The battle needs to go to the grass roots and this is the perfect example and a great place to start! Get the younger people involved as they are our future!
More comments? Let's here some CONSTRUCTIVE and USEFUL approaches to this problem!
I have to agree with Highball, in that the public school system has a very narrow agenda, when it comes to programming our children. The thought of freedom (or free thought) is definitely NOT in the program.
I know it is the end of the school year, but if anything happens, let us know.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I HIGHLY recommend he call the NRA's attorneys at (703)267-1250 and his local ACLU office.
Yeah right, the ACLU-the aclus existence is about doing away WITH THE BILL OF RIGHTS, NOT PROTECTING THEM.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
If the school says no to a club that will just discuss the 2nd Amendment, it shows that they have no respect for the 1st Amendment either.
-WW
"...That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state."
-The Debates in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Virginia, on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution. June 27, 1788.
I think it would be a great idea to have 2nd amendment clubs at high schools. Use the JPFO material to help counteract the propoganda they get from the school.
If the school says no to a club that will just discuss the 2nd Amendment, it shows that they have no respect for the 1st Amendment either.
100% agree. I said that in my high school rhetoric class once in a discussion about gun control, and was labeled or maybe even blacklisted as a potential killer. It's crazy how things are done in California.
Thanks Again,
A--Dub
Once a week I would ride two CTA public busses to school with my trusty rifle in an obvious rifle case. I'd arrive at school be greeted by our assistant principal and proceed to the ROTC room where U.S. Army Sergeant Norb Ketzner would store my rifle in the arms room vault until my ROTC period. Later, Sgt. Ketzner would give me my rifle and I'd shoot the course. It was great training for me in the 1960s as we were involved in the Viet Nam War. At the end of the school day I get my rifle and commute home with it on the busses again all without incident.
I was in the class of 1965. Three short years later I was drafted into the Army and prepared for Viet Nam. I was lucky enough to be ahead of the game because of that wonderful ROTC program. I was confidant and not afraid of being sent to fight for my country because of that training. As luck had it they sent me to Germany to serve as a medical corpsman instead of Viet Nam.
Too many of our Bolshevik politicians in America were on the side of the Communists and America reneged on the agreement to protect the good people of South Viet Nam from the Communist invasion from the North. We abandoned these people only to watch them get enslaved and murdered both in Viet Nam and Cambodia.
If I was drafted today I'd tell the Bolshevik politicians that run this country, no thanks and leave for any other country that rejects Communism.
Today if a high school kid showed up with a rifle case even if it were empty the helicopter would circle overhead as the news crews rushed to cover the breaking news story.
Defender
Private investigator licensed in AZ & CA that specializes in self defense cases.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
My mother told me that both of her brother (my uncles) were active shooters in school functions, and neither needed grandpa to get them their guns (which were only .22's). Not long after mom was out of school, the events were barred, thanks to the infamous Viktim Disarmament Akt of 1968.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
My son started a shooting club at his High School. At first they said "no" but he went to the local police and worked with them as a sponsor. Also, the rules at his school are that he had to get an administrator or teacher to sponsor the club too, he was able to get the county sheriff's deputy which was his school resource officer to be the school sponsor. Of course the school did not have a range and they had to use the county range but they did meet once a week at the school and learned gun safety as well as other info. In particular they had many sessions of debate concerning the 2nd Amendment, some times heated.
It was a great learning experience for him and he was astonished at how many students joined. They did have a rule that no member could have a history of violent crime to keep out any dangerous or gang persons. His High School is in the inner city so they had to be careful. All that it would take is one member being involved in a gun related crime and the club would be no more.
Your brother may try to form a Bill of Rights club and use it to discuss and support the 2nd Amendment. Sorta an end run move.
Shadow83
Love My Country,
Fear My Government
It seems like you are stating this due to the alcohol issue. Yeah, Christians need to back off the alcohol thing a bit.
Maybe the churches need to look at the truth about drinking alcohol, and realize the it is not a sin to drink alcohol; it is only a sin to be drunken of it. If it were a sin, why then is Communion taken with wine to symbolize the Blood of Christ? If it were a sin, every time you attempt to follow Jesus' command on Communion, you would be sinning.
Then ask yourself why it is that Jesus would turn water into wine for others to drink. Let's face it, wine (or any alcoholic beverage) is clean (thanks to the alcohol in it), bacteriastatic (bacteria cannot live in it), bacteriaseptic (bacteria cannot grow in it) and has held medicinal purposes with the people... when it is not taken to excess.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."