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25-20 and 32-20 whv

Can anyone recommend a manual or 2 that has data for 25-20 whv 60gr and 32-20 whv 80 gr. ? I would guess it would be a manual from the 1960's? Correct me if i'm wrong, Winchester stopped loading the 32/20 whv in the early 60's and the 25/20 whv around 71? Thanks for any help.

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  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,520
    edited November -1
    Pacific Rifle/Pistol
    Cartridge Reloading Manual c/r1967
    page 143- 25-20 WCF
    60gr Jacketed
    Recomended Loads Maximum Loads
    Unique 5.0gr 1540fps Unique 6.0gr 1820fps
    2400 9.0gr 1660fps 2400 11.0gr 2075fps
    4227 10.0gr 1670fps 4227 12.0gr 2030fps
    4198 13.0gr 1820fps 4198 15.0gr 2100fps
    H-110 8.4gr 1510fps H-110 9.5gr 1730fps

    page 204 32-20 Winchester Rifle Load
    80gr Bullets
    Recomended Loads Maximum Loads
    Unique 5.0gr 1400fps Unique 6.6gr 1740fps
    2400 11.0gr 1560fps 2400 13.0gr 1900fps
    4227 15.0gr 2045fps 4227 17.0gr 2260fps

    Hope this is what your looking for.
    W.D.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,497
    edited November -1
    What are you shooting them in??? For an older pistol those loads listed are too hot. The 32/20 runs good at about 900 fps in the old pistols.
    Use these charts after you type in rifle or pistol.

    http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
  • handforgedhandforged Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thankyou guys, any info is a help to me. They would both be used in 1892 winchester rifles. Just gathering info at the present time. Getting close to taking the plunge into the reloading world.
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you plan to shoot them much cast bullets are the way to go. Very inexpensive if you make them yourself and much easier on the barrel.
  • noyljnoylj Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm curious--what is WHV?
  • XXCrossXXCross Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Winchester High Velocity
  • noyljnoylj Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is that a name of a bullet? Sounds like an ammunition name.
    Thanks.
  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know that I would plunge into the reloading world with the then equivalent of +P+ loads. The 92 is strong but why hammer it?
  • XXCrossXXCross Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Noylj,
    The WHV was mostly an advertizing ploy. The shells offered
    a slightly higher velocity over the black powder loading.
    Pressures could be somewhat higher as well.
  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It may have been advertising, but the WHV was cataloged at considerably higher velocity than standard black powder equivalent.
    Winchester actually had three .25 WCF and .32 WCF loads at one time, standard, safe in revolvers and 1873s, Model 92, and WHV.

    Phil Sharpe shows substantially higher chamber pressure for the higher velocity loads, about double, in fact.
  • handforgedhandforged Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Any other manuals with that data? Have not come across a Pacific that anyone will part with. I did find one but the price was too high.
  • navc130navc130 Member Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Lyman Reloading Handbook, 47th Ed., has loads for both cartridges. They specifically state the loads are for firearms designed for smokeless powder and NOT for firearms designed for black powder.
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