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Hornady Load Data

RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
Can someone help me out with newer Hornady load data?

9mm Luger.
124 Hornady FMJ Round Nose.
Winchester 231 powder.

Looking For starting load and max load.

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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can someone help me out with newer Hornady load data?

    9mm Luger.
    124 Hornady FMJ Round Nose.
    Winchester 231 powder.

    Looking For starting load and max load
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Money is tight right now,(no money for new load book) My older Hornady book does not list 7MM WSM, will be loading 154 gr. SST bullet number 2830, would like to use Varget powder, any help would be very, very appreciated.
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Can someone please give me the load data for the Hornady 200 XTP, with HP-38 powder and 231 for 45ACP

    thanks in advance

    Kona
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    chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is their website down? All their RL data is on lines
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If Hornady data is online I can not find it.
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    gesshotsgesshots Member Posts: 15,679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

    Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^
    Load type - pistol >>>>>> Cartridge - 9mm >>>>>>>> Get Data


    About middle of page.

    [;)]
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    [:D]http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

    Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^

    About middle of page.

    [;)]


    No, I am looking for data out of a newer Hornady manual with Hornady bullets. I am well aware of the Hodgdon web site, thanks anyway.[;)]
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    mrshortymrshorty Member Posts: 110
    edited November -1
    8th edition hornady handbook does not list your powder for 124 grain fmj which by the way has been discontinued
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    CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    9th edition does not show that powder. Only Unique, Herco, Win AutoComp, VIHT N-350, Power Pistol, IMR SR-4756, HS-6, Blue Dot and Accurate #7

    My Speers #14 Manual does not have that powder for that bullet either.
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    OakieOakie Member Posts: 40,519 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    only list win 231 for a 115 grain bullet not the 124. The loads for the 115 is 4.1 gn lowest to 4.7 max. That is for a fmj rn.This is the most current addition to the hornaday reloading manual. If you want powders and loads for the 124 fmj rn I can give you those. Try Unique. 4.0 lowest to 4.7 highest I would use the same loads for the 115 as I would for the 124, but that is just me.Oakie
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrshorty
    8th edition hornady handbook does not list your powder for 124 grain fmj which by the way has been discontinued


    The FP is suspended, the RN ain't.
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    bambambambambambam Member Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hornady doesn't post there loads for free online like the powder companies do.

    You can email or call a Tech at Hornady & they will provide you with whatever they can to help you out.
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    FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Lyman- 125gr JHP
    Winchester 231-
    Start- 3.7gr Vel. 1068fps
    Max- 5.1 Vel. 1374fps.
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    noyljnoylj Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Load data is NOT bullet specific. Have you read a manual?
    What a handloader does is check at least two sources for load data and starts at the lowest starting load.
    Here is my compilation of loads:
    Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL
    J-all 125 231/HP38 3.2 901 Start 113
    Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 113 1.075
    Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 115 1.075-1.135
    JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 960 Start 120 1.075
    Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.0 887 Start 110 1.120-1.135
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.1 Start 0
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.2 1005 Start 125
    J-all 124 231/HP38 4.4 1008 Start 125
    Sie FMJ 125 231/HP38 4.4 1009 Start 126 1.090
    JHP 125 231/HP38 4.4 1043 Max 130 1.075
    Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 998 Max 124 1.120-1.135
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 1060 Max 131
    JSP 125 231/HP38 4.6 1099 Max 137 1.120
    Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 138 1.075
    Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 140 1.075-1.135
    JSP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1108 Max 139
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 5.2 1100 Max 136 1.040
    Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1120 Max 139 1.120
    Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1145 Max 142 1.120
    FMJ 125 231/HP38 5.4 1200 Max 150
    JSP 125 231/HP38 5.6 1149 Max 144
    (wish we could post Excel files)
    First, take a couple of empty cases and make up two inert (no power or primer) dummy rounds. You will seat the bullets long and just remove the bell/flare at the case mouth such that the round drop in barrel (or case gage) easily (though they won't go all the way since the bullet should be too long. Next, seat the bullets in small increments until they fit in your magazine(s). Now, see if they feed and chamber. If not, keep seating the bullets slightly deeper until they do. This is your maximum effective COL for that particular bullet.
    Next, I tend to load up 5-10 rounds at that COL and 5-10 at various progressively deeper seated COLs using the lowest starting load. You may find that the lowest starting load doesn't cycle you gun, but that is not your concern right now. Find the COL range that functions in your gun. If you have several guns and need to load for all of them, then work until they all feed that bullet reliably.
    After you have a COL that works, then you can start working up the load. Keep notes on your findings.
    For a FMJ-RN, I find a COL of 1.100" is the minimum I have used, 1.125" works almost universally in my guns, and 1.160" is often the most accurate.
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    steve4102steve4102 Member Posts: 186 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by RobOz
    quote:Originally posted by gesshots
    [:D]http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

    Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^

    About middle of page.

    [;)]


    No, I am looking for data out of a newer Hornady manual with Hornady bullets. I am well aware of the Hodgdon web site, thanks anyway.[;)]


    You will hardly ever find an exact component match when searching for load data.

    It is perfectly acceptable and safe to use tested data of Same weight bullet of similar construction from different manufacturers. If it was Not safe and acceptable, bullet manufacturers like Montana Gold, Rainier, Berry, Armscore and even Remington would be hard pressed to sell their bullets as there is little to no data for these bullets.
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by noylj
    Load data is NOT bullet specific. Have you read a manual?
    What a handloader does is check at least two sources for load data and starts at the lowest starting load.
    Here is my compilation of loads:
    Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL
    J-all 125 231/HP38 3.2 901 Start 113
    Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 113 1.075
    Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 115 1.075-1.135
    JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 960 Start 120 1.075
    Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.0 887 Start 110 1.120-1.135
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.1 Start 0
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.2 1005 Start 125
    J-all 124 231/HP38 4.4 1008 Start 125
    Sie FMJ 125 231/HP38 4.4 1009 Start 126 1.090
    JHP 125 231/HP38 4.4 1043 Max 130 1.075
    Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 998 Max 124 1.120-1.135
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 1060 Max 131
    JSP 125 231/HP38 4.6 1099 Max 137 1.120
    Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 138 1.075
    Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 140 1.075-1.135
    JSP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1108 Max 139
    FMJ 124 231/HP38 5.2 1100 Max 136 1.040
    Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1120 Max 139 1.120
    Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1145 Max 142 1.120
    FMJ 125 231/HP38 5.4 1200 Max 150
    JSP 125 231/HP38 5.6 1149 Max 144
    (wish we could post Excel files)
    First, take a couple of empty cases and make up two inert (no power or primer) dummy rounds. You will seat the bullets long and just remove the bell/flare at the case mouth such that the round drop in barrel (or case gage) easily (though they won't go all the way since the bullet should be too long. Next, seat the bullets in small increments until they fit in your magazine(s). Now, see if they feed and chamber. If not, keep seating the bullets slightly deeper until they do. This is your maximum effective COL for that particular bullet.
    Next, I tend to load up 5-10 rounds at that COL and 5-10 at various progressively deeper seated COLs using the lowest starting load. You may find that the lowest starting load doesn't cycle you gun, but that is not your concern right now. Find the COL range that functions in your gun. If you have several guns and need to load for all of them, then work until they all feed that bullet reliably.
    After you have a COL that works, then you can start working up the load. Keep notes on your findings.
    For a FMJ-RN, I find a COL of 1.100" is the minimum I have used, 1.125" works almost universally in my guns, and 1.160" is often the most accurate.


    I'm not looking for a lesson in hand loading, been doing it for 25 years. I was looking for newer Hornady load data for a 124 grain fmj RN and Win 231. From what was posted Hornady no longer uses 231 with the 124 grain round nose. I just wanted to see how the data from my 4th edition manual compared with newer data.

    Thanks for the effort.

    Rob
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    noyljnoylj Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, why then are you requesting ONLY Hornady data and why if the manuals don't contain the data you seem to want?
    Call Hornady and ask them. They might have some data.
    After 40 years of reloading, I have no idea why Hornady load data should be gold standard.
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    RobOzRobOz Member Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by noylj
    Well, why then are you requesting ONLY Hornady data and why if the manuals don't contain the data you seem to want?
    Call Hornady and ask them. They might have some data.
    After 40 years of reloading, I have no idea why Hornady load data should be gold standard.



    I wanted to know the difference between forth edition and a current edition. I thought my question was pretty straight forward. I simply asked for Hornady data with Hornady bullets. The Hornady bullets would be moot if the data came from a Hornady manual.
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