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Bluedot powder

.410shooter.410shooter Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
edited September 2010 in Perry Shooter Competition Shooting and Reloading Forum
Whats the deal with Bluedot in the 125 grain .357 loading? I have loaded and shot hundreds of rounds loaded like this with no trouble, matter of fact I may still have some in the ammo locker, what happened?
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I broke mine down and don't use Blue Dot any more. They never released the reason for the advisory.
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  • .410shooter.410shooter Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fortunatly my Taurus likes a load with 2400 better anyway so no big deal, just wondering.
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  • Pistollero1050Pistollero1050 Member Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In the advisory that I read a couple years back. They said that they where getting higher than sammi pressure. Said it was dangerous. I have loaded bluedot in my 41 mag and it pushed the cone in quit a bit and I had to have S&W recone it. I took the 250 rounds that I had loaded and dropped the grains down and they are much more freindly.
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  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I spoke with Ben Armonette personally at SHOT, and he would only tell me that when they re-tested their old data for the 357 and 41, they saw "anomalous results" in the pressure curves. He would not elaborate, but did say that it isn't a CYA thing, the problem is real.

    Don't use Blue dot in the .357 Magnum with 125-gr jacketed bullets, and don't use it in the .41 Magnum at all.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    I spoke with Ben Armonette personally at SHOT, and he would only tell me that when they re-tested their old data for the 357 and 41, they saw "anomalous results" in the pressure curves. He would not elaborate, but did say that it isn't a CYA thing, the problem is real.

    Don't use Blue dot in the .357 Magnum with 125-gr jacketed bullets, and don't use it in the .41 Magnum at all.


    It is easier to not use Blue Dot at all in handguns; with several other powders giving good, safe reliable results, why bother? I have never seen Blue Dot as the "go to" powder for ultimate accuracy in most hand gun calibers. It does work well in several cast bullet rifle loads, that is where I am burning up the remainder of a four pound can I have.

    My .02
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  • reloader44magreloader44mag Member Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    16.0gr of Blue Dot with a 240gr JHP is one of the most accurate loads I load for 44mag...just sayin
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  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290 ✭
    edited November -1
    This is the first mention of any sort of warning I've seen; what's the problem with it? Were certain older lots responsible? More recent quality control issues? Were the loads used/tested close to maximum? I've seen loads for BD in 357 involving 125gr SJHPs that exceeded 13.5 grs, and scooting those jackets out of the grooves afterwards wasn't much fun.
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  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    All I can tell you is to read the warning on their website, and then re-read my post above.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
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  • tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess I missed something too.
    I didn't see a warning and there are still a bunch of handgun recipes for Blue Dot on the Alliant website.
    Was it a problem with lighter bullets?

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=10
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  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tomh.
    I guess I missed something too.
    I didn't see a warning and there are still a bunch of handgun recipes for Blue Dot on the Alliant website.
    Was it a problem with lighter bullets?

    http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=10


    If you would have looked closer, you would see there is NO load data for 125gr. 357 or ANY for 41mag.[:0]
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  • tomh.tomh. Member Posts: 3,843 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I did notice that. But just wanted to clarify what I was seeing.
    Measure twice and cut once kinda thing.
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