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308 load.

jdr308jdr308 Member Posts: 20 ✭✭
hey guys, I have a savage tactical 308. I believe these have a 1:10 twist.? I put a nikon monarch 6-32 scope on it and am ready to load some rounds up and sight it in. I have federal match brass and have match primers as well. My question is- what is a accurate load for this rifle.? Is anyone else shooting the savage tactical with a accurate load.?? I have shot this rifle in the past with 155gr. nosler custom competition bullets and varget powder. did pretty good but I want to really see what kind of groups this rifle is capable of and try for the most accurate round I can create for this gun. If you have a 308 load that is a tack driving round and you are willing to share it with me I would greatly appreciate it.!! thanks in advance...

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  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I had mine, I used Varget and 168 match bullets.
    Can't remember how much powder, but it was not max from the manual.
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    win match brass
    45gr Varget
    168gr pill
    primer that works best on paper

    Mine is a 10 twist Hart Barrel
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 40x likes
    43.8 Varget
    Lapua brass
    155gn A-max
    CCI BR-2 primer
  • mk19mk19 Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    43.0 gr of Hodgdon Varget, 175 gr Sierra Matchking
    CCI BR2, IMI Match brass, 2685 fps out of a 26",
    sub half inch groups if I do my part
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jdr308,

    With my Savage tactical in .308:

    Lapua brass.
    42.5 gr. of H4895X
    168 gr. SMK or Nosler CC
    CCI 450 Primer (Bench substitute wouldn't hurt here)
    2650 fps.

    Or,

    41 gr. of H4895
    175 gr. SMK or Milspec FMJ (the SMK shoots tighter but the FMJ replicates M118LR)
    CCI 450 primer.

    While the H4895X (X for Extreme) works well the best powder for this case is probably Varget. You can also substitute RE-15 for the H4895X loads.

    I recommend you drop two grains and work up a ladder (2-3 cartridges at each powder weight) and work up in .5 gr. increments and see where your barrel best likes these loads. Work up to as high as 44.0 gr. But you may probably need to stop before then. One, because you have found your accuracy node. And two, because that is max in some books and over max in others. Just be prepared to pull any bullets you have that are over the last one showing pressure signs.[;)]

    -good luck
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The head instructor for our highly renowned SWAT Sniper School wanted to duplicate the uber-accurate Federal Gold Medal Match load for less expensive practice.

    What he came up with used that brass, the Fed 210GM primer, the Sierra 168 MatchKing and 41.0 4064. It shoots!
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • jdr308jdr308 Member Posts: 20 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thanks guys.! Im sure one of these loads will work great. What difference can i expect to see by using match brass and regular winchester brass? just curious, and also I have federal gold match brass and some say its junk and to soft. Is the shoulder compressing when reloading or just to soft and dosent last? what is happening with the brass that it isnt a popular choice for reloading.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    In my limited experience with it (I have only about 200 pieces) Federal brass seems to be a bit thicker and a bit softer than (for example) Winchester. It is also accurate as all Billy-damn.

    The complaint about being too soft is curious, as reloaders take considerable effort to anneal brass for the sole purpose of making it softer.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • OdawgpOdawgp Member Posts: 5,380 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    In my limited experience with it (I have only about 200 pieces) Federal brass seems to be a bit thicker and a bit softer than (for example) Winchester. It is also accurate as all Billy-damn.

    The complaint about being too soft is curious, as reloaders take considerable effort to anneal brass for the sole purpose of making it softer.


    I can't get federal brass to load up and still pass through my 45acp gauge. All other dimensions being OK, federal is the only brand I have a problem with all others load up and gauge just fine. It has to be the thickness of the case wall(s)
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup. To give an even more extreme example, I can use most .308 brass to -gradually- neck down to .25-308. But not Federal. I can easily get it down to that diameter, but the reformed cases won't chamber because the neck is too thick. I'd have to turn or ream it, but just use other brands instead.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    First stop wasting money on match primers.... If your going to dish money out of brass, get Lapua. Its the best.

    Next, buy a really good digital scale because its going to be your best friend. Sort and weigh everything. You want consistancy.

    Buy bulk bullets and lapua brass. Weight and sort all your individual bullet and brass.

    The M118LR round is a pretty darn good round. I like it alot better than the old 168gr with the IMR4895 load that works so well the M1A at 600yards. Use a 175gr Sierra Match King with RL-15. The load seems to vary depending on where you get the data. Best I've come up with is 43.1grs of RL-15. It seems to match the velocity in my 26" gun to what the milspec is. But it also seems to group amazing.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    On the Federal brass being soft. It's not the neck/shoulder that is soft on them. It's the head. Every time I get going up towards the hottest loads, I get primer pocket spread. I don't get this near as bad with Winchester Brass and definitely not with Lapua. .308 Lapua is expensive but not too bad when purchasing it in .308.

    As to what Rocky said about the necks being thicker that is true. And yes, even only turning them down to 7mm-08 requires you to turn necks on them usually (depends on your gun). .260 is a must. I've also found Federal to be very consistent, therefore accurate. It's just that when the brass won't last at the upper end of the pressure scale they get a lot more expensive to buy.
  • leeblackmanleeblackman Member Posts: 5,303 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    If your going to turn necks, then you might as well invest in a collet neck die also. Literally you make the entire rim the same width all the way around, then use the collet neck die to set the tension uniformly against a mandrel. Lee makes about the cheapest neck die on the market, and its a collet neck die, and it works. If your using a bolt gun, fireform your cases. I thought it was stupid until I literally watched my groups shrink in half between batches...
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