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Difficult 223 brass?
skyfish
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I've sized a fair amount of 223/5.56 brass. And never really had issues. Almost all goes through an AR(MSR) rifle. And functions just fine.
Now, I've used Winchester, both commercial and Nato. Federal, again both Commercial and Nato. I also have some FNB with Nato cross. And a few Remington, I traded my UMC for other stuff. All works well through dies, the FNB was maybe a little thicker/ harder to go through press. But went through okay and functions fine.
Now the problem. PPU brass, Private Partisan, fired through my rifles, a MSR(AR type). I can't size that for nothing. Using Hornady Unique sizing lube. It is very hard to re-size. Usually deforms the rim, so I know I'm close to sticking the brass in the die. And still won't feed through AR. Also, has a slight rim where the die stops on the body.
Any ideas? Just when you think you know what your doing, something like this happens.
Now, I've used Winchester, both commercial and Nato. Federal, again both Commercial and Nato. I also have some FNB with Nato cross. And a few Remington, I traded my UMC for other stuff. All works well through dies, the FNB was maybe a little thicker/ harder to go through press. But went through okay and functions fine.
Now the problem. PPU brass, Private Partisan, fired through my rifles, a MSR(AR type). I can't size that for nothing. Using Hornady Unique sizing lube. It is very hard to re-size. Usually deforms the rim, so I know I'm close to sticking the brass in the die. And still won't feed through AR. Also, has a slight rim where the die stops on the body.
Any ideas? Just when you think you know what your doing, something like this happens.
Comments
That stuff, in every caliber I think, needs to be annealed before you use it. It's good enough stuff to keep using, but it's purty hard when it comes to resizing. Also, when Graf's offers cases of a particular caliber, that's who they go to, Privy Partisan.
Overall, I've had good accuracy. You just need to know to anneal first when the sizing goes like it is for you.
That is also one reason many will tell you to go with lapua when you can. It's ready, it's accurate, it's done RIGHT! It shouldn't take a FIGHT! to get a batch of reloads out.
The web area may have expanded from an over pressure factory loading of the Private Partisan ammo. The web area will not spring back like the rest of the case body. Most full length sizing dies will not contact the web area on sizing. You could try a small base die or just scrap the brass. Take measurements of the web area of all your brass, is Private Partisan larger?
I avoid the ppu head stamped brass like the plague, and it always goes in the trash can. For my 357,it's so soft that it won't even hold the bullet when roll crimped, and I had to use a 38 super die instead. I never have that problem with other brands.
Rule of thumb-
.223 brass in a 5.56 Nato chamber ok
5.56 brass in a .223 rem chamber not ok. (if your a casual reloader and trust me, 5.56 in a .223 can be a pain in the * if not done right).