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I'm not up on California Gun Laws ...
kimberkid
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So I'm gonna ask the experts, even though I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
I've got some Original 1950's era Armalite AR-10 magazines on the auction side.
A potential buyer wanted to know if I could break down the mags and ship them to him as parts.
I do want to sell them, but not enough to break the law, and as I understand their laws, shipping them mag parts wouldn't be any different than if I sold them the complete mags ... is it?
I've got some Original 1950's era Armalite AR-10 magazines on the auction side.
A potential buyer wanted to know if I could break down the mags and ship them to him as parts.
I do want to sell them, but not enough to break the law, and as I understand their laws, shipping them mag parts wouldn't be any different than if I sold them the complete mags ... is it?
If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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JIM...........
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
"CA penal code 12020(a)(2) reads:
Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine."
Putting the parts together is manufacturing a magazine.
It is still possible to purchase minor parts such as springs of followers for magazine which were in possession prior to the cut off date, but a magazine body is a now magazine, whether or not the internal parts are included.
It's strange though one can buy "blocked" magazine with a stick of wood that can be removed by sliding the floor plate. Now with the stick that may skirt the "law" if the money's good enough.
They changed that rule and became quite strict and clear on the matter eliminating any possible loophole you might imagine or attempt...
In many states attaching two or more legal low capacity magazines together resulting in a combined number of rounds above a posted legislated limit is also strictly prohibited and considered a criminal act...
That device they sell were 3 ruger 10/22 mags Lego connect around a central plastic hub is strictly verboten and a big cap criminally liable device or activity...
No more wooden dowels or plastic plugs.
I am not exaggerating.
Mike
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I told him "Sorry, California considers mag parts the same as complete mags".
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Freedom Week really riled up the politicos in Sacramento, so beginning in 2023, magazines of any capacity will be considered Firearms Precursor Parts and can only be shipped to dealers or to parts venders, who will become a new classification of permit holders:
16531. (a) As used in this part, commencing July 1, 2023, ?firearm precursor part? means a component of a firearm that is generally necessary to build or assemble a firearm and is included in one of the following categories:
(1) A firearm barrel.
(2) An ammunition feeding device, including, but not limited to, a magazine or speed loader.
[a long list of common firearms parts follows]
The buyer is probably just a few years behind the times. Used to be that even after the "hi cap" ban we could legally get magazine "rebuild kits" which were essentially a disassembled magazine. In theory one could replace all the parts on an existing magazine, including the body. Who knew AR and AK mags were so fragile ??
That ended about 3 years back. There was a well known reprieve of sorts via a court case earlier this year, but that window quickly closed after a weekend.
Mike