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Navy issued S&W M39 - Legal or not?
nmyers
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I see this item advertised here: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/837216000
The seller claims that it was bought & issued by the Navy in 1967, during the Viet Nam War. He has posted photos of a lot of paperwork, including a letter from Smith & Wesson, but I can't read much of it due to lack of resolution. What I don't see, is some documentation that proves that this gun was sold/transferred by the US Government.
I can still hear my NCO's telling me, "the FBI investigates the theft of government property". After the Korean War, very few firearms were sold by the government other than DCM or CMP sales, or General Officer pistols. Can anyone here see documentation of a legal sale in the GB listing? I would hate to think that this public exposure would lead to a visit by the fellas with the bulges in the cheap suits.
Neal
The seller claims that it was bought & issued by the Navy in 1967, during the Viet Nam War. He has posted photos of a lot of paperwork, including a letter from Smith & Wesson, but I can't read much of it due to lack of resolution. What I don't see, is some documentation that proves that this gun was sold/transferred by the US Government.
I can still hear my NCO's telling me, "the FBI investigates the theft of government property". After the Korean War, very few firearms were sold by the government other than DCM or CMP sales, or General Officer pistols. Can anyone here see documentation of a legal sale in the GB listing? I would hate to think that this public exposure would lead to a visit by the fellas with the bulges in the cheap suits.
Neal
Comments
Maybe the Capt bought it himself. As a officer in the military I think back then they could sell it directly to him.
Or if it had been officially disposed of and sold to an officer.
I have had JAG and military police and provosts / IG folk in the gunshop along with state and local police and batfe over handguns stolen from the service...
An active duty officer whom was a gunshop regular bought a 92f from another dealer - turned out to be one of many stolen - several of which has been purchased by active duty service people through dealers...
I can 100% guarantee that any dealer in the game long enough has handled the sale of a firearm stolen from the military - or private parties - and nothing happened
I believe president Bush brought home a pistol from the service having reported it lost when his plane was shot down in combat in the pacific - an officer on the submarine that picked him up suggesting he declare it lost in action - he returned the gun and no charges appeared
One assumes a statue of limitations - but that may be no comfort in federal lock up.
I 100% guarantee many folk here own a stolen gun and have no idea - went through a NICS check and legally purchased it from a dealer or individual.
These facts will not be popular or sit well with some - but cannot be disputed.
Perhaps Mark Christian can clarify my poor response attempt.
Mike
I sent a half dozen former US military arms to locust fork for sale - every single one with paper trail documented original proof of purchases
DCM & CMP and one gun an uncle bought direct from the government.
The auction in question purportedly has impeccable ephemera and paperwork - if so we're is the receipt from the organization that sole it???
Many guns are sold especially after a death or inherited or in an estate sale were all paperwork is lost or missing - but he seems to have everything but the one piece that might be considered a red flag on such an item.
Please note I am not knocking the seller or the auction side or the forums or mods or admin - I am giving my opinion and advice for what it's worth.
Mike
I wrote to the seller to ask if he can prove Captain Wells legally kept the pistol.
Seller's reply: