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I am about to the point of hating our political leaders.......

neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭
edited March 2021 in Politics

This is just part of the bullcrap that has absolutely nothing to do with COVID the Demoncraps hid in there. Basically unless you were white, farmers got their government loans written off.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/13/how-covid-relief-bill-aims-to-help-socially-disadvantaged-farmers/4637103001/?fbclid=IwAR2Md_DENK_siCL17LIyd2eevl7tN9IKbiG8dArQ24BUEZW4WBwAAvCKdyY

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  • diver-rigdiver-rig Member Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭✭
  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭

    They did not hide it, it was read line by line in congress BEFORE the vote, and THEY passed it anyways. Yea, they used to hide stuff, now there is no need to even act like they care!

  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭

    Come on Man! You are way behind.


    I don't any (R's) voted for it and commie cast the tie breaker.


    Wait till they vote to pay reparations and pay off college loans for "Disadvantaged" people.

    RLTW

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭

    Doing the math, that equates to approx $90,000 per black farmer(as noted this bill uses that language specifically).

  • Ricci.WrightRicci.Wright Member Posts: 5,129 ✭✭✭✭

    Direct descendants of the Commies who infiltrated our government starting in the mid 1930's. Joe McCarthy tried to do something about it, as did Dies and Hoover, and they did the same thing to McCarthy as they did to Trump. I think it's too late to fix it now. Probably best to get all the free stuff you can and hunker down.

  • mac10mac10 Member Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭✭

    they read it on the floor in the middle of the night while you were tucked in your bed dreaming about nancy

  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭

    I sincerely hope they pass a dozen bills costing at least two trillion dollars for only Black Americans and illegal alien criminals.

    Then, during the next election cycles in 2022 and 2024 we will see if we have a nation of "WE THE PEOPLE" or a Socialist Marxist Utopia.

    Let the people decide, the stupid must pay.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭

    They already have another 4 trillion $ "stimulus" plan in the works. BE CAREFUL what you wish for. I agree, in a FAIR election they would lose their hats, BUT why would they let us EVER have another fair election? I'm afraid the fix is in from now on! Why not because there was no repercussion from the last time the used fraudulent votes?!

  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,309 ***** Forums Admin
    edited March 2021

    Yeah, that's what I thought when I saw the title. Me, how about 40+ years ago.

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2021

    It's part of The NWO socialist take over with The United Nations 2021-30 agenda. You spend the country into a default with hyper inflation and currency devaluation. To recover you must give up that pesky 2nd amendment that Americans hang on too much on.

    Your sovereignty is still given a token nod but they know now your teeth have been pulled and you have no defense that is not under complete government control. The Great Reset cannot allow small arms for personal defense anymore.

    It's coming and The BLM with other inclusive equality movements is just a tool to achieve a complete welfare system with an A.I. 5G total awareness takeover for the rule of law and peace keeping purposes. Given time their will be no need for gainful employment with advance technology.Trans humanism is the guide for perfection at last.

    The oligarchical fascist,socialism system will still employ the smartest and most talented forces to further their utopian vision,just like they do in communist Red China. Their is little differences between communist and fascist political dogma systems with a so called free democracy voting system here when money buys all the votes with lobbyist and super-pac's anyway anymore.

    serf

  • Ruger4meRuger4me Member, Moderator Posts: 3,312 ******

    Don McManus I never put it on, except at the doctors after I had already paid for visit and they brought me into the room and then said put it on or we won't treat you... so I put it on got my RX and haven't worn one since, that was a year ago. I'm with you on the go ahead if you think it helps, but I don't believe it does so not for me.

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,733 ✭✭✭✭

    FWIW, my Cousin said he was getting something like $7500 "written off" and he's definitely NOT black. I could reasonably expect to have the same results so not sure where the "blacks only" came from.

    I haven't even looked at the program since it mostly targets those operators who already have loans. I don't borrow money and certainly not going through the process of getting a loan just to have it "written off".

    Just to keep things straight: blacks, women, and beginning farmers get all sorts of perks from USDA that old white guys don't.

  • mike55mike55 Member Posts: 2,853 ✭✭✭✭

    "The package provides $5 billion for socially disadvantaged farmers of color, including $4 billion for the forgiveness of outstanding debt and $1 billion for training, outreach, education, technical assistance and grants."

    Quote above from google search. It IS in the "covid relief" bill that was recently signed into law! I cannot find the exact language in the bill, do not plan to read through the entire bill even if i could find it.

  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,460 ✭✭✭✭

    Mike55.

    Farmers of color can get up to 120% of outstanding debt relief.



    'The provision, which was drawn from the Emergency Relief for Farmers of Color Act, was inserted into the relief package and includes $5 billion that will go to socially disadvantaged farmers of color. These include Black, Hispanic, Native American or Asian American farmers. Four billion dollars would go toward covering up to 120% of outstanding debt, and $1 billion is designated for outreach, training, education, technical assistance and grants.

    So, if you are black and a farmer and owe $ 100,000.00, you can get $ 120,000.00. If you are Asian and a farmer and owe $ 50,000.00, you can get $ 60,000.00. Neither of these payments need to be justified by stresses due to the Magical Covid. As with most thing offered by big government buffoons, the less responsible you are, the more you benefit.

    I fail to see how this is inclusive. Normal Americans of all races see this as the childish identity politics that it is, and most realize that such thing increase racial tensions rather that mitigate them.

    This is why normal people of all races are beginning to ignore more and more of what these morons say and do. The decrees from Washington DC have been a joke from at least the GW Bush Administration, and have gotten more and more comical over the Obama and Trump Presidencies. The clown show that is Biden, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi and McCarthy is the worst yet, but dollars to donuts the next batch will lower the bar even further.

    You can choose to hate them if you like, but that takes too much energy. Laugh at them. They are all pathetic little piss-ants who are striving for relevance. Sadly they hold the reigns of power and their juvenile whims can cost us a lot of money.

    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭

    FWIW, I did not say "black only". I said "non-white" which includes other ethnicity's. Is your cousin a farmer with a USDA/SBA loan being written off or would he be speaking of the Paycheck Protection Program that businesses/self employeds received and will be written off?

  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,733 ✭✭✭✭

    " Is your cousin a farmer with a USDA/SBA loan being written off "

    YES, he had a Federally subsidized bank loan reduced last year and he's actually getting another subsidized bank loan in order to get that one written off also. As I said, I don't know any of the details since it doesn't really pertain to my operation.

    I pay for everything except fuel and day to day expenses a year in advance and sure as heck not going through all the paperwork required to borrow money I don't have a use for.

  • serfserf Member Posts: 9,217 ✭✭✭✭

    This has been going on for years with Subsidized urban housing with welfare,ever since the civil rights act back in 1964. Black politics has been milking the system since day one. We still have ghettos,with drugs and murders which I doubt will ever change to a benevolent paradise with more free government money stimulus.

    But hey it's all free, and who is ever going to pay for all this? Maybe all those tax paying illegals coming across the border can once they get on their feet in The land of the milk and honey.

    serf

    It comes from one of the greatest works of literature ever written, the Bible. In Exodus, when God instructs Moses to lead his people, the oppressed Hebrew slaves of Egypt, out of bondage and into freedom, he promises them their own land. He does not tell them exactly what land describes it as a land flowing with milk and honey.

  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,450 ✭✭✭✭

    I miss read at a glance I thought it said hanging our leaders 😕

    oh well

  • neacpaneacpa Member Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭

    It may not be, but this sounds like the SBA PPP loans last year and the second round of the SBA PPP loans are going on now. They are not direct SBA loans but through a local bank and the SBA guarantees them. Interest rate is 1% and then all someone has to do is spend the loan correctly on payroll/utilities/mortgage interest/rent within a certain time frame and apply for a forgiveness and it is written off. This was not just for farmers but for any self-employed. The second round has a more restrictive qualification requirement.

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