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If Socialism comes here so does this!!!!

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,664 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 2015 in Politics
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-05/air-france-plans-almost-3-000-job-cuts-after-failed-pilot-talks


Violence erupted Monday as Air France told its works council that 300 pilots, 900 flight attendants and 1,700 ground staff might have to go after failed productivity talks with flight crew. The protest, in which agitators chanted "naked, naked," is just the latest to turn physical in France, where managers at Michelin & Cie. and Sony Corp. have been held hostage over firings, irate farmers have blocked city streets with tractors and manure, and more than 100 Uber Technologies Inc. taxis were smashed up by rival drivers.
`Scandalized'

"These attacks were made by isolated and particularly violent individuals as the demonstration by personnel on strike was going on calmly," Air France said in an e-mailed statement, adding that a complaint had been filed for aggravated violence.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said he was "scandalized" by the levels of violence, adding that "nothing justifies such outbursts."

HR chief Broseta said on Europe 1 radio that he was "personally shocked and disappointed" by his ordeal, though didn't blame the workforce as a whole, and that a return to labor talks was still "possible." Air France unit head Frederic Gagey told RTL radio that seven people were hurt, including a guard who suffered a head injury.

The carrier postponed the meeting and said it won't be deflected from cuts that could include the first forced dismissals since the 1990s.
Air France human resources chief Xavier Broseta scales a fence away from protesters in Roissy-en-France, today.
Air France human resources chief Xavier Broseta scales a fence away from protesters in Roissy-en-France, today.
Photographer: Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP via Getty Images

Under the savings plan announced today, Air France's fleet would be reduced by 14 jets to 93, with orders for Boeing Co. 787s scrapped and aging Airbus Group SE A340s phased out. The Air France-KLM Group unit indicated there was scope for compromise should unions come forward with serious savings measure.

Air France said last week it was planning cuts to jobs, jets and routes in the absence of a deal with pilots, who had been asked to work more hours for the same pay to help end annual losses that began in 2011. Government ministers had urged the sides to continue talking so that jobs could be saved.

The changes would require a shrinking of Air France's network, with the termination of five routes and the elimination of 35 weekly frequencies by 2017. Asia, where competition is toughest, would be worst affected.
Employees of Air France wave CGT union flags as they demonstrate at the company headquarters today.
Employees of Air France wave CGT union flags as they demonstrate at the company headquarters today.
Photographer: Kenzo Tribouillard/AFP via Getty Images

Job cuts couldn't be implemented before mid-December at the earliest, given French legal requirements, leaving about two months for the two sides to agree an alternative way forward, should negotiations resume.

Chief Executive Officer Alexandre de Juniac has forced the showdown with pilots after last year being defeated in plans to establish a low-cost airline outside of France when crews walked out for two weeks, costing the airline 500 million euros ($564 million) and prompting the government to intervene.

Air France hasn't recently fired workers outright, relying on attrition and early retirement packages to reduce the payroll by 9,000 over three years. The last time it sought to dismiss staff, in 1993, weeks of walkouts cost the job of CEO Bernard Attali.
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Comments

  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    surely the union will pay their bills ????
  • wifetrainedwifetrained Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We're already well on our way there.
  • slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We have been headed for Socialism at least since the early '60's if anyone has been paying attention.
  • KAMsalesKAMsales Member Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
    We have been headed for Socialism at least since the early '60's if anyone has been paying attention.


    Socialism has been trying to set up here since the day after Marx published the 'Manifesto', we just weren't as receptive of it as Europe. They now have enough braindead 'gimme gimmies' is this country to take over though [xx(]
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,297 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you look at the toop tier tax rates from 1933-1982 we have always been socialist
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • Lazerus1Lazerus1 Member Posts: 52
    edited November -1
    I do not remember the details and am too lazy to look it up but we started down the road to socialism just a few years after the Constitution was signed. What I do recall is that there was a natural disaster somewhere and Congress debated wheather or not to take taxpayer funds to help the victims. The members of Congress who were against this won the argument but the members who were for it learned from the experience and the next time the subject came up they won and tax money was used to help the unfortunate. That was the beginning of socialism in America and we have continued relentlessly towards it ever since.

    I believe that America became more socialist than anything else soon after the start of the income tax in January 1913 or at least with the "New Deal" and then there is "Social Security" that makes us all socialists.
  • llama girlllama girl Member Posts: 605 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I want a new bumper sticker that reads,
    McCarthy was right!
    Unfortunately I would have to explain it to fellow local people (ironically educated in public schools) what it means.
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