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Reloading Question

dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
what can i do to make my loads more accurate? have been thinking about turning the necks,using a neck bushing die,micrometer seating die an not crimping the case. am i on the right track or just wasting money

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  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've thought about getting reloading equipment for my .357, but I'm unsure on what all I'm going to need. Does anyone have any advice for a newbie?
    GH1[:)]
  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As many of you know I have recently started reloading. I have learned alot of different things by reading around on the internet and watching youtube videos. I have one question that i can not find an answer to, and i was wondering if you guys could help me. I have a Lee Colet Dye set for .270 WIN and when i'm done seating the bullet, i can easily push the bullet down inside the case (when i say "easy" i mean with like less than 2 lbs of force). Is this normal?!? I want to get a factory crimp dye, but i dont have any bullets with a cannelure.
    Can you only crimp bullets with a cannelure?? I'm thinking about getting the lee factory crimp dye. But i'm wondering if this will solve my problem.

    Thanks for any advice.
  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Helped Dad reload many years ago and got myself into it a few years ago with a mentor to bring me up to date. I load or will be loading 22 Hornet, 222, 223, 7mm TCU, 308, 30-06, and 7mm Mag.

    I have a Sierra 3rd and 10th, Hornady 7th, Speer 10th, and Lyman 46th.

    Are there any I don't have that I should get?
  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am interested in reloading 9, 40, 45 pistol rounds and 270, 30-06, 7 Mag and 30-30. What would be the best powder. Also which takes small and large primers.

    Also about how many 45 rounds would be in 1 pound of powder.

    Also about how many 7 Mag rounds would be in a pound of powder.

    Thanks David
  • dav1965dav1965 Member Posts: 26,543 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am new to reloading:

    I was full length resizing and decapping some .223 once fired brass.
    I had previously cleaned it in stainless steel media.
    I broke a decapping pin and thought maybe i had a crimped in primer? So i took a look at the case and this was not the case. so i replaced the pin and continued. About a dozen cases later same thing happens. So i look in the case and i see 2-3 stainless pins wedged in the bottom of the case. Heres the question: 1. What are the ramifications of the pins remaining in the case(I.E. missed when i decapped the case)2.Has anybody else had this issue? If so what is the remedy for correcting this...short of the obvious answer which is visually inspect every case or stop using S.S. media. Thanks for you help.
  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    The first thing you need to do is to go buy several reloading manuels, Sierra and Hornady make, in my opinion, two of the best.

    Every Cartridge in every gun is going to want a different powder for optamum performance, that powder may also change with bullet weights. For example, in my 10" 223 Contender the barrel likes Benchmark for 40-50gr bullets, but prefers VV N130 for 50-55gr. The most accurate load in this pistol is 25.0 gr of Benchmark with a 50gr Berger HPFB, I enjoy showing rifle shooters that smaller is better with that load.

    1 pound of powder = 7000 gr, so if you are loading 75gr of 4831 in your 7mm Mag you will be able to load 93 rounds for a pound of powder. But with only 64.5gr of H450 you will be able to load 108 rounds.

    Same with your 45acp, 10gr of Bluedot will give you 700 rounds while you could load 5gr of Bullseye and get 1400 rounds per pound. But you will really see a savings in loading your 9mm with 125gr cast bullets and 3.2gr of 700X, that load will give you 2187 rds per lb.

    All of your rifle cartridges take Large Rifle primers, depending on the powder you use in the 7mm Mag you might need Large Rifle Magnum primers.
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,278 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498276

    I can't over state load data enough.[:)] Check, check, and check, again.
  • Bubba Jr.Bubba Jr. Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Dave, I saw your question over on ATE, and someone answered that .45acp took large pistol primers. That is correct for most .45acp ammo, but Blazer and some other brands started using small pistol primers in their ammo recently.

    If you are reloading used ammo make sure you sort out the small primer cases. If you try to put a large primer into a small hole, you may try to force it in and cause it to go boom.

    The advice to read several reloading books first, is spot on.

    Good Luck, and have fun. [:)]
  • bambambambambambam Member Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My 7mm Rem Mag loads range from 130gr-162gr.

    I use H4831SC & H1000 for a large portion of my loads.

    I run from ~59-70 grains in all the different loads.

    7000gr/#

    7000/70gr max=100 loads
    7000/59gr min=~118 loads
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,733 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Something like IMR 4350 will load decaent ammo for 270, 30/06, and 7mm mag. The 30/30 will require a faster burn rate.
    I've used AA#7 for 9mm(about 850-900 loads per pound) and 40 S&W and the manual says it works for 45 ACP. Titegroup is a low dose(up to 1500 or more per pound), economical pistol powder but you MUST be careful of a double charge.
    Like the others said, divide 7000 by the grains of powder in your load to get loads per pound.
  • bigdaddy75069bigdaddy75069 Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    For your pistol loads I use bullseys and love it.The imr 4350 is a good powder for all except the 30-30.I dont reload it so I cant recommend a powder for it.Get some good reloading manuals and start slow working your loads up.There is alot of good info on the powder manufactures websites also.
  • Riomouse911Riomouse911 Member Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Since you're looking at widely different rifle loads (.270,'06, 7mm Mag and then the low-pressure.30-30) you'll probably have to go with 2 different rifle powders...I'd say IMR 4895 is a good "all around" powder for the higher-pressure rounds you listed. And then maybe IMR 3031 for the .30-30. (3031 will also work in the other rounds, it's just not "ideal" for them as far as best velocity, etc..)

    If you want ONE all-around powder for your handguns, Unique fits the bill.

    All of these powders have tons of verified and published data for just about any bullet weight you desire.

    As was posted; 7000 grains are in a pound, so divide your load and you'll get a pretty good idea how many rounds can be loaded.
  • rsnyder55rsnyder55 Member Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bambambam
    My 7mm Rem Mag loads range from 130gr-162gr.

    I use H4831SC & H1000 for a large portion of my loads.

    I run from ~59-70 grains in all the different loads.

    7000gr/#

    7000/70gr max=100 loads
    7000/59gr min=~118 loads


    Theoretically, but if you are using a powder measure mounted on the press, don't let the powder drop below 1/3 of the container or you may find the weight of the loads changing.
  • noyljnoylj Member Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    9, 40, 45 pistol rounds and 270, 30-06, 7 Mag and 30-30
    What is your definition of best powder? Best accuracy or best velocity?
    9x19 (9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum): Silhouette, WSF, and Power Pistol are excellent. 231/HP38 is accurate. Blue Dot and AA7 will give best velocity.
    .40 (.40S&W): AA5 is most accurate. Silhouette is best at near max.
    .45 (.45Auto, .45ACP): most accurate in all my .45s is 231/HP38 followed by AA2. True Blue is good at near max.
    .270 (.270 Winchester): 4831 (either H or IMR)
    .30-06: IMR4064 for accuracy. 4831 (either H or IMR) for max velocity
    7mm Mag (7mm Rem Mag): 4831 (either H or IMR). Reloder 25 for max velocity
    .30-30: IMR 4064 or H335 or BL-C(2), though Leverevolution is the one for max velocity
    All the handguns can be quite happy with 231/HP38.
  • machine gun moranmachine gun moran Member Posts: 5,198
    edited November -1
    Reloading manuals. Start with page one. Seriously [:)].
  • yonsonyonson Member Posts: 892 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Reloading 30-30 depends on its intended use. Sam Fadala experimented extensively with loads for the Win. 94 as documented in his fine book on the same. Loads using bullets from 100 to 190 gr. are documented. This info encouraged me to work up my own load using 28 gr. 748 with 180 gr. Hornady RN (large rifle primer), an accurate underload ideal for neck shooting deer (I use a Marlin 336).
  • fire for effectfire for effect Member Posts: 121 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can use Unique in all of your pistol reloads, And Varget in all of your rifle.
  • bigdaddy75069bigdaddy75069 Member Posts: 161 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bullseye works good in all your pistols loads and imr 4350 is good in all the rifle loads except 30-30.I dont watse my time on them anyway.
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