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CCW testing
dakotashooter2
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I know this can be somewhat of a touchy subject. Many think our constitution itself gives us the right to carry concealed, but for now we are forced to follow the interpretation, and I use the word loosly, of our government.My question is since we are required to be licensed in most cases do you think there should be proficency testing. Again you will find a wide range of opinions on this but I have to speak in favor of such testing. In my state the CCW test is a 10 question open book test dealing with the law and a proficency test that consists of 10 shots anywhere in the scoring rings, with one reload) from 7 yards with pretty much any handgun you choose. In my case the instructor had us qualify with a ruger MKII. A blind man could (and actually did)pass this test. It bothers me cause some of the yahoos barely kept all 10 shot on target. The problem I see is that I might be standing beside "John Wayne" when he draws on a BG robbing the 7/11 and shoots himself or ME in the foot because he has little or no training and/or experience with his weapon. I also have to wonder if there wouldn't be a liability issue for the state if no training is required. Even requiring a firearm safety course which most shooters probably have already taken would be better than nothing. While everyone should have the right to carry I'm not sure all are qualified to. Having a gun if you can't or won't us it is often worse than not having one at all.
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My thoughts go to Vermont, and now Alaska, (and maybe Wyoming soon?) who have the ONLY carry law that I agree with.
(or lack of [;)])
There does not seem to be a problem, with the lack of training, in those states.
Hmmmmm........
Anybody who uses a firearm SHOULD make sure he/she is proficient in the use of that firearm, if for no other reason, for their own safety. However, I don't see how you can make mandatory training compatible with the Bill of Rights. Also, as we all know, many people go through training and testing on many things and manage to remain totally ignorant. Odds are the people who would benefit from training are the same people who do it voluntarily.
I think the folks who rob Seven/Elevens should have to take the training before they are allowed to rob a Seven/Eleven.
Anybody who uses a firearm SHOULD make sure he/she is proficient in the use of that firearm, if for no other reason, for their own safety. However, I don't see how you can make mandatory training compatible with the Bill of Rights. Also, as we all know, many people go through training and testing on many things and manage to remain totally ignorant. Odds are the people who would benefit from training are the same people who do it voluntarily.
Training which involves shooting, where do I report???? Is the ammo FREE???? [:D]
http://www.firearmsacademy.com/free.htm
Training which involves shooting, where do I report???? Is the ammo FREE???? [:D]
Look in the Yellow Pages under "Recruiters". FREE AMMO. [:D]
quote:Originally posted by HDRIDER
Training which involves shooting, where do I report???? Is the ammo FREE???? [:D]
Look in the Yellow Pages under "Recruiters". FREE AMMO. [:D]
FUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNY!!!!!!!! [:D] BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!!!!!! [:p]
...I agree, some of these yocals don't need a gun in their hands. I have seen 3 thrown out of his class. One asked if he could carry hand grenades after he got his liscense, the other came looking like he was headed out on a 6 day recon,replete w/K-bar,compass, you get the picture...and the third ask if he could now booby trap his home windows with a shotgun, DUH to all. 11 hrs. of class room, 1 hr range time. 98% of the people I have been in two classes with, I feel safe around...[;)]
...I always carried a handgun, even before we had the "right" generously given to us by the state,big of 'em, acknowledging the constitution, huh? It has always made me more tolerant, and a nicer person...slowed my quick temper. Carrying is a BIG responsibility, not to be taken lightly...[;)]
I heard a CCW trainer state you can come in and qualify with your little 22 and then go out with your 44 mag for protection. The law requires 10 hours of class and range time.
My instuctor told me that my security firearms training at 20 hours of range time plass classroom time qualified me to apply for a CCW.
From the type of questions and answers I see on this forum a lot of people would benefit greatly from classes detailing and teaching the lawful use of deadly force. Because if you don't know before you pull the gun or trigger, it's to late.
Also classes teaching basic civics and everyday criminal violations. Most don't know the difference between a robbery and a burglary. Or the difference between assault and battery.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
I would hate for it to be a requirement, but........
From the type of questions and answers I see on this forum a lot of people would benefit greatly from classes detailing and teaching the lawful use of deadly force. Because if you don't know before you pull the gun or trigger, it's to late.
Also classes teaching basic civics and everyday criminal violations. Most don't know the difference between a robbery and a burglary. Or the difference between assault and battery.
Failure of the schools to teach the English language was another thread. [;)]