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Another Question about Hunting Private Property
41 nut
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The responses to my post Hunting question for the board brings up another question from the responses.
In your state where property is either private or public who pays to control fires or spread herbicide on the property. If the state does with taxpayer dollars then why shouldn't the taxpayer be allowed to hike, fish, or hunt that property. I'm talking about large areas of forest land primarly but large open areas would be the same. If a forest fire breaks out in your state who pays the bill you the taxpayer or the property owner? Same question if there is a large outbreak of a forest devestating insect or disease?
In this state both are paid by the taxpayer therefore the property is considered open to the public unless properly posted, which in this area of the state very little is posted. Also about the only public land is state park where hunting is prohibited.
In your state where property is either private or public who pays to control fires or spread herbicide on the property. If the state does with taxpayer dollars then why shouldn't the taxpayer be allowed to hike, fish, or hunt that property. I'm talking about large areas of forest land primarly but large open areas would be the same. If a forest fire breaks out in your state who pays the bill you the taxpayer or the property owner? Same question if there is a large outbreak of a forest devestating insect or disease?
In this state both are paid by the taxpayer therefore the property is considered open to the public unless properly posted, which in this area of the state very little is posted. Also about the only public land is state park where hunting is prohibited.
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Now with that said if I cause a fire on my property or anywhere else I could be held liable for the cost of suppression. If that happens it usually comes down to a criminal or negligent act that is dealt with in court.
That does not give you the right to step foot on any property I own. Posted or not.
WV has a law known as Castle Doctrine. Look that one up after I tell you just one time to stay off of my property.
Herbicides are NOT spread on private property by the government.
They sure are on forest land here.
On my GPS I have a map that shows property ownership of the entire state of Idaho: BLM, Forest Service, State, and private. As I travel on my ATV I can tell whether I'm on private land or public land. When I come across some Chuckers or Quail on private land, I just keep on going.
41 nut: Your logic is flawed. Presumption of ownership of land is never a consideration of law. I'm sure you have heard of "ignorance of the law is no excuse." Well presumption of open land is no excuse.
The State has an obligation to put out fires, and property taxes are paid to equip and man those agencies.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
In your state where property is either private or public who pays to control fires or spread herbicide on the property. If the state does with taxpayer dollars then why shouldn't the taxpayer be allowed to hike, fish, or hunt that property.
So, if we continue down that line of logic, then if the city, county
or state put out a fire in your home, then your fellow citizens at
that level of service should be able to hike around your home. Same
goes for the agencies driving down your streets and spraying
herbicide to prevent mosquitoes. I've got dibs on the treestand
on top of your entertainment center! [;)]
Private land is just that - private, no matter the size.
quote:Originally posted by 41 nut
In your state where property is either private or public who pays to control fires or spread herbicide on the property. If the state does with taxpayer dollars then why shouldn't the taxpayer be allowed to hike, fish, or hunt that property.
So, if we continue down that line of logic, then if the city, county
or state put out a fire in your home, then your fellow citizens at
that level of service should be able to hike around your home. Same
goes for the agencies driving down your streets and spraying
herbicide to prevent mosquitoes. I've got dibs on the treestand
on top of your entertainment center! [;)]
Private land is just that - private, no matter the size.
I think 41 nut spent to much time on his bike following the DDT spraying truck through his neighborhood as a child.
The responses to my post Hunting question for the board brings up another question from the responses.
In your state where property is either private or public who pays to control fires or spread herbicide on the property. If the state does with taxpayer dollars then why shouldn't the taxpayer be allowed to hike, fish, or hunt that property. I'm talking about large areas of forest land primarly but large open areas would be the same. If a forest fire breaks out in your state who pays the bill you the taxpayer or the property owner? Same question if there is a large outbreak of a forest devestating insect or disease?
In this state both are paid by the taxpayer therefore the property is considered open to the public unless properly posted, which in this area of the state very little is posted. Also about the only public land is state park where hunting is prohibited.
That's why we pay our property taxes. It pays for protection.
You need to change your laws. Our constitution protects hunting fishing and trapping.
Hunters fisher trappers and even granola crunching hippies need to be aware of private property boarders and are responsible for their actions. I didn't know it was private is no excuse.
I pay the property taxes, the mortage, insurance, the help that I need in building fence, pay for all up keep for supplies, all the fuel for my equiptment to farm it, all the loans on said equiptment, taxes on equiptment when bought, all the money to buy livestock, all vet bills on livestock, and state/federal taxes on any/all income from the farm. I also pay for the ammo and the fire arm that will be used should some one decide to ignore the posted/no tresspassing signs(which I paid for as well) around my boundries and hunt/fish/do as they please on my land WITHOUT my permission.
Bottom line is if you want to do as you please on a piece of land, BUY it and then do it; other wise abide by laws that are on the books so you will not be fined and/or will live longer IMHO.