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I'm disappointed in myself and my temper
LaidbackDan
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I was almost provoked into ridding the planet of an aggressive panhandler.
I took my wife and two of my teenage daughters over to Portland Or. For something called "Saturday market" We took Portland's mass transit light rail system instead of driving to save the hassle of parking.
While awaiting a train to return us, my daughter was approached by the scummiest piece of crap I have seen in a long while demanding money or her can of soda. The guy was about 5' 3" all of about 120 pounds wearing filthy pants, no shirt, a trench coat and some type of Rastafarian beanie and was smelling of urine and booze.
My daughter panicked and I told him to move along, he ignored me and continued to ask for her can of soda and called my wife evil for raising such selfish brats. I then placed myself between him and my family and was pissed. I didn't want him near us.
He momentarily left to dance while some street musician pounded on some 5 gallon plastic buckets. There were plenty of other people there and they thought his dancing was amusing.
He stopped dancing and made a beeline directly at my daughter again shouting he was thirsty. I then stopped him approaching by physically pushing him out of the way. He screamed "Touch me again and that's assault" while trying to crowd me without actually touching me. My wife in the mean time was calling 911 and told him so. The train approached at that moment and he just turned around and left.
My adrenalin was pumping and I was ready to physically alter him.
The reason I backed off was his mention of assault and It immediately clicked that this guy was attempting to get me to harm him.
After it was over I reflected on the events and the guy did everything he could to provoke me without physically touching me or my family.
He purposely antagonized my family, he tried to draw as much attention to himself and the situation with the crowd waiting for the train and then found my buttons and pushed them over and over.
I'm disappointed in myself for being led so easily. I am usually calm and consider myself rational and level headed but I was ready to destroy this idiot, I'm glad I pulled back and it ended without me being arrested for beating up a homeless piece of crap and then getting sued by the same.
My daughters mentioned that there was another unsavory character filming the whole thing with a camera phone that's part of the reason I think I was being set up, my daughters said he was filming before the escalations of events.
I think I'll stay home in the country from now on.[V]
I took my wife and two of my teenage daughters over to Portland Or. For something called "Saturday market" We took Portland's mass transit light rail system instead of driving to save the hassle of parking.
While awaiting a train to return us, my daughter was approached by the scummiest piece of crap I have seen in a long while demanding money or her can of soda. The guy was about 5' 3" all of about 120 pounds wearing filthy pants, no shirt, a trench coat and some type of Rastafarian beanie and was smelling of urine and booze.
My daughter panicked and I told him to move along, he ignored me and continued to ask for her can of soda and called my wife evil for raising such selfish brats. I then placed myself between him and my family and was pissed. I didn't want him near us.
He momentarily left to dance while some street musician pounded on some 5 gallon plastic buckets. There were plenty of other people there and they thought his dancing was amusing.
He stopped dancing and made a beeline directly at my daughter again shouting he was thirsty. I then stopped him approaching by physically pushing him out of the way. He screamed "Touch me again and that's assault" while trying to crowd me without actually touching me. My wife in the mean time was calling 911 and told him so. The train approached at that moment and he just turned around and left.
My adrenalin was pumping and I was ready to physically alter him.
The reason I backed off was his mention of assault and It immediately clicked that this guy was attempting to get me to harm him.
After it was over I reflected on the events and the guy did everything he could to provoke me without physically touching me or my family.
He purposely antagonized my family, he tried to draw as much attention to himself and the situation with the crowd waiting for the train and then found my buttons and pushed them over and over.
I'm disappointed in myself for being led so easily. I am usually calm and consider myself rational and level headed but I was ready to destroy this idiot, I'm glad I pulled back and it ended without me being arrested for beating up a homeless piece of crap and then getting sued by the same.
My daughters mentioned that there was another unsavory character filming the whole thing with a camera phone that's part of the reason I think I was being set up, my daughters said he was filming before the escalations of events.
I think I'll stay home in the country from now on.[V]
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sorry...but i'd have fed him the can of soda right between his eyes[V]
And I know I would have found satisfaction doing the same.
It was strange how quickly it ended, which was for the best.
He screamed "Touch me again and that's assault" In a case like that I'd be in trouble big time, I'd grab a handful of nuts and squeezed until he passed out then gently lay his * on the ground, protecting ones family can give a man purpose and pleasure [;)] Note: all men are'nt laid back and I'm one thats not [:D]
"Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee
I don't go there unless I have to, mostly just to the V.A. Them people just ain't right, gay mayor and all.[xx(]
W.D.
For next time pack a thing of pepper spray. When dudes roll up on your kid give the kid the spray and let her rip. Cops come let the kid freak out to the cop and go home.
I've got one daughter who is a motor mouth who packs a 9MM and another that is just genetically strong and thinks like a Hockey player.
I'm pretty proud of raising strong independent girls. SHTF and I won't have to worry about them holding up their end.
Get my drift?
You did the right thing. I dont have your patience and would have hit the guy. I have a very short fuse when it comes to my family.
I have to agree, even though I can be very short tempered.
Chances are good that Dan would not have been charged with assault, but odds are very high the guy would have filed a civil suit against him.
Considering where it is, I would think the 'bum' would have a lot of sympathy on his side.[xx(]
wasn't soda, but last time we were in NYC, a derelict accosted my wife as we were leaving a starbucks. demanded her chocolate mocha latte with extra whipped cream[:p]
the mrs is easily intimidated in big cities and immediately got behind me.
i offered the bum my coffee instead and he agreed.
12 ounces of starbucks finest expresso, black, to the face had him screaming and rolling around on the side walk.
no one even looked twice.
sometimes ya gotta love NYC!!
tom
You did well. I hope the police were provided with a description. This was a shakedown/scam in progress.
This is why I stay out of large cities. All of them.
I don't think it would have gone like they expected.....you don't have to wait on someone to actually HARM you in order to protect yourself. I'm relatively sure the video would have proven useful against them. (I am reminded of "Amberlamps" on the public bus.)
This is a common mistake. Oregon is extremely liberal (particularly Portland), and more than likely Dan would have had his * handed to him by the courts. On top of assault, there's a good chance he'd have been fined for not aiding the destitute.
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
our laws are written to give them the freedom until they do harm to themselves or others, often getting thrown in jail and away from the meds they need, instead of a mental health care facility
there is a big gaping hole in that system that gets a lot of people hurt and or killed before help can be mandated