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Paris Climate Agreement will U.S. stay or go ?

droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
edited June 2017 in General Discussion
President Trump says on Twitter he will be announcing his decision on whether the United States stays in the Paris Climate Agreement at 3 p.m. ET Thursday in the White House Rose Garden.

Will Trump keep his campaign promise and leave or break his promise?

I say, the U.S. will NOT stay in the agreement. A promise is a promise.
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  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We'll stay in.
  • jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This program is nothing but a money giveaway for the USA. Trump will pull out or stop the money and the others will quit.
  • bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
    edited November -1
    The 3:00 planned announcement leads me to believe that someone is going to get jammed for insider stock trading in the next few weeks.


    He's still thinking he's running a reality show.

    #sad.
  • pwilliepwillie Member Posts: 20,253 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The USA has left the building.....good by nothing...
  • Ricci WrightRicci Wright Member Posts: 8,260 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I will be very disappointed if Trump doesn't get us out of that crapy deal. It's about nothing but money. There is no valid science behind it.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Hillary supporters are predictable.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • nutfinnnutfinn Member Posts: 12,804 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    We'll stay in.
    I hope we go, but I think we stay.
  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,195 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go................
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Dads3040
    The Hillary supporters are predictable.


    Yep: more predictable than the weather. [:D]
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  • eastbankeastbank Member Posts: 4,215
    edited November -1
    china does not have to do any thing untill 2030 and then only if they want to, all we get out of it is to give most of the money to keep it going at a snails pace with little impact on the worlds enviroment. get out of it quick. mr myopic.
  • Gun_PoorGun_Poor Member Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    75 billion dollars a year to stay in. He promised to get out during his campaign. He's getting out!
  • DirtyDawgDirtyDawg Member Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I hope his decision is to leave the scam known as Paris Climate Agreement. It hamstrings America, and funnels billions out of u.s. taxpayers. Total sham. If he choses to stay in, it will be one more nail in his re-election coffin.
  • Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go

    He promised to get out of it. Its an illegal treaty and it will punish the US.
    RLTW

  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,041 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Go. A money pit for the USA.

    Without the USA paying the way, it will die like it should.

    Junk science.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    That idiot o'blammy already signed the damn thing, forcing the US to pay trillions to 3rd world crapholes for absolutely nothing.
    President Trump needs to drop this thing like the turd it is.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    canNOT believe the obummer agreement...give em a 15 year grace period....FKNG stoopid sell out ....GET OUT>>>RUN AWAY>>>>>>>>>>
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,646 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hope we get out but his daughter and son in law are putting the bug in his ear to stay. I cannot stand that little a-hole son in law of his. Nothing but a Democrat operator anyway.
  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
  • PacManPacMan Member Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,646 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Andddd We're out...but says we are renegotiating when possible..sheesh just stay out
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    His statement is masterful.

    Citing the things the other countries are allowed to do, while we are restricted will force the left to explain how the climate is helped by the same activities taking place, but changing who is doing them.

    It will also be fun to see the left try to rationalize the decreases in industry that would be a result of the Paris Accord.

    The path forward to right this country is going to require forcing the left to show themselves and their true allegiance.

    We have seen that they do not support free speech. Only their free speech. They are not tolerant of anyone who disagrees with them.
    They decry violence, and use it to advance their goals. They claim racism is the greatest obstacle faced by minority groups, while those minority groups illustrate daily that they are the worst racists in existence.

    The most important thing we must showcase, is the antipathy to Western Civilization that is central to their worldview. When the Soviet Union was the greatest threat to Western Civilization, the left was starstruck by Communism and its leaders, including Russia. Now that radical Islam is the greatest threat to Western Civilization, and Russia is an ally in the fight against the Islamists, the left begins to hate Russia and support Islamic extremism in all its various forms.

    The underlying brilliance in much of what Trump has been doing is to get the left to stick their rhetorical neck out farther and farther. When it is good and stretched out, swing the axe.
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,184 ******
    edited November -1
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    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • jltrentjltrent Member Posts: 9,195 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Admittedly surprised by the decision, but I do think the agreement was illegal under US Law.

    Treaties must be ratified by Congress.....especially something of this scope.

    Barack Obama simply put did not have the authority to do something like that on his own.....no more than Trump could sign us into an alliance with Russia that divided the world between us.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,646 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm glad he did it. The amount of money some of these countries wanted(India for one) amounted to extortion imo. Screw em!
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 39,309 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    Spot on, Mr. P.
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Like NATO and the UN. The US is a patsy paying the bills for all the leaches that hang on for a free ride...

    Trump should either make the others ante up in the game or pull us out. No more being the loser.
    "What is truth?'
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    The 3:00 planned announcement leads me to believe that someone is going to get jammed for insider stock trading in the next few weeks.


    He's still thinking he's running a reality show.

    #sad.


    Nothing was hidden from anyone, Trump has always said he'd get out because it was a bad deal for the U.S.

    Don't think Trump is in this to make money. It's all about History.
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Globalists can suck it long and suck it hard.

    Globalists can bit it til it bleeds.

    America does not need to take it up the rear for a bunch of snobby Eurotrash and a dam commie pope.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 25,750
    edited November -1
    So the US is through underwriting AlGores scam.

    Wow, weaning the world off the American teat is something new. It's time someone else footed the bill.
  • JunkballerJunkballer Member Posts: 9,147 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea, we need that 75 Billion dollars to pay the Russians our cab fee to travel into space [:(!]

    "Never do wrong to make a friend----or to keep one".....Robert E. Lee

  • mag00mag00 Member Posts: 4,719 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I caught part of the Trump Speech on this.

    I think I may start adopting the "red nose" ideology. Punch these idiots in the nose. Let's keep feeding so they keep breeding, then pay money to develop and steal our jobs.

    Trump got the spotlight and is shining it in the corners too.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,367 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The democratic response is same ole, same ole. Lets make america poor again by giving economic advantages to everyone in the world EXCEPT American citizens/workers/business.

    Trump said "you'll win so much you say PLEASE QUIT WINNING, I'm tired of winning. The Democrats are saying PLEASE QUIT LOSING, I'm tired of losing. [:D][:D]

    Didn't understand just how bad the Paris deal was for America. The U.S. dodged the bullet on this Obummer Negotiation.

    Trumps full speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEbraBDj-wc
  • jerrywh818jerrywh818 Member Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jerrywh818
    This program is nothing but a money giveaway for the USA. Trump will pull out or stop the money and the others will quit.

    I told you so. Trump is for the country. He can't be bought. You nay sayers might as well hang it up. We have a real man in there now. Good buy Ethanol, Good buy wind mills, good buy solar. Hello nuclear, Hello coal. Turn in your welfare cards you freeloaders. There will be a job in town soon. If Republican don't get on the train there will be some nasty primaries soon. Hillary can go ahead and show us her varicose vanes now it's over. Uncle Joe is getting ready to run. That means they have nobody left. Maybe Al Frankin will run. That will be amusing.
    I can hear him now. The Russians are coming the Russians are coming!!!
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I love how the headlines are "Sad day for the world... " Yeah, I'd be sad too if I was a foreign power and my sugar daddy deal to suck money from the pockets of the US Taxpayer just got kiboshed.

    Bite it libs...
  • gunnut505gunnut505 Member Posts: 10,290
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by droptop
    The democratic response is same ole, same ole. Lets make america poor again by giving economic advantages to everyone in the world EXCEPT American citizens/workers/business

    Didn't understand just how bad the Paris deal was for America. The U.S. dodged the bullet on this Obummer Negotiation.

    Trumps full speech. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEbraBDj-wc




    I have the rXv Gene that forces me to read important legislation for myself, instead of just taking for granted that those swamp-dwellers HAD to have my best interest at heart.
    Names of the Bills usually have absolutely Nothing to do with what shenanigans are contained within them.

    But when the price is more than the existing worldwide cash supply, and the check goes to WHOM, exactly?! Those questions needed answers, anyway.
    Look at "news" with an eye toward discovering what they DON'T tell you, be curious about why the same words/phrases appear on EVERY network, listen to the storyline; if it seems gleeful while reporting tragedy, you chose unwisely.
  • Dads3040Dads3040 Member Posts: 13,552 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Facts? Or different opinions?

    You do realize the difference, right?

    BTW, starting with C&P information from as flawed a source as Politifact doesn't exactly start you in the direction of credibility. Not that you had any to begin with.

    I do have to say I enjoy reading an 'analysis' concerning Global Warming Weather Cooling Catastrophic Hope and Change that is concerned about predictions from models that are extreme and cherry picked.

    Irony...it's not just how the well water tastes.
    (H/T: Rocky Raab)
  • CaptplaidCaptplaid Member Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    God never said the earth was going to last forever.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,724 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    will we save the dinosaurs by covering them with money ???
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