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Posted - 01/12/2002 :  11:27:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
11 JANUARY 2002

It's like we have been saying....Fanny Pack Carry is the LAW OF THE LAND in ILLINOIS!

In Order: 1. Centralia Sentinel reports that Marion County State's Attorney James Creason has come to his senses. Fanny Pack carry is legal in Illinois. 2. Creason's rubber duck is now the property of John Birch and defense attorney Dick Carey. 3. Some of Vana's supporters gather at the ABC Saloon for a victory party. 4. John and Vana see that Dick gets paid with the hard earned money you donated....thanks!

You should have spotted the duck three times in the above pictures.


Judge acquits woman of weapons charge

By Hodapp

SALEM A jury deliberated nearly five hours Friday before convicting Vana Haggerty of unlawful use of weapons for selling a pair of brass knuckles at the Marion County Fair.

The jury acquitted the 41-year-old Centralia resident of unauthorized possession of a weapon on state-supported property for allegedly carrying a pistol in a fanny pack while working on the fairgrounds.

On Thursday Marion County State's Attorney Jim Creason had dismissed a controversial transportation of a firearm charge filed against Haggerty, for allegedly carrying the unloaded pistol in the fanny pack.

In his closing statement Creason reminded the jury that despite the defendant's claim, the brass knuckles were really a paper weight, she told a young male customer the proper way to wear the item as a weapon. He also reminded the jury that when a man asked for brass knuckles, Haggerty gave him the item, despite calling it a paper weight.

"You can't change what something is just by calling it something else," Creason argued. "If I use an Uzi to prop open my door, I can call it a door prop but it's still a submachine gun.

"If it looks like a duck and flies like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck," he said.

Creason also told the jury that Haggerty admitted to possessing the pistol on state-supported land without prior permission from the sheriff.

Centralia attorney Dick Cary argued that the decision made by the jury would help define the law in Marion County for years to come.

He showed the jury the magazine that sold the brass knuckles purchased by Haggerty and described them as paper weights. He told the jury that Haggerty also possessed a sword, but wasn't charged with the sword as a weapon because it was known to be a novelty.

He said that if the brass knuckles are a weapon, the buyers should also be charged along with the seller.

Cary argued that Haggerty has a right to be at the fairgrounds and had in fact paid for rental space at the site. He argued that seeking prior permission before taking a weapon onto state-supported grounds in insane.

He said that using those rules, a fisherman could not take a fillet knife fishing at Forbes State Park, a man couldn't take an ax across the street to show a neighbor and a hunter couldn't transport a gun to hunting grounds.

Creason argued that Haggerty admitted the handgun was concealed on the fairgrounds during the fair and that she had not obtained permission to bring the gun onto state-supported property. He then asked the jury to consider one thing while deliberating and placed a small, yellow duck on the stand in front of the jury.

The jury retired to deliberate about 10:30 a.m. and returned with a verdict about 3:30 p.m. Haggerty is scheduled to be sentenced on the use of weapons charge on March 7.


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Posted - 01/13/2002 :  12:00:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regardless of the finding of the Jury or if the State's Atty. declines to file charges, the Illinois Revised Statues would still define carring a firearm in a fanny pack as Unlawful Use of Weapons. If this had happened in Chicago or for that matter Rockford or Peoria, I am certain the person would have been found guilty. Things are more "relaxed" in rural southern Illinois.

Before anyone starts flaming me, I am not saying that I agree with all of the laws here in Illinois, I am just quoting the statutes.

The Topic title is misleading and incorrect. The law does not say Fanny Pack Carry is legal or the Law of the Land in Illinois.

I have hope that there will someday be CCW's
here in Illinois but I am not real confident it will ever happen...

[This message has been edited by William81 (edited 01-13-2002).]

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Posted - 01/13/2002 :  08:11:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
William81 - You beat me to it. I agree that this verdict in no way settles the "fanny pack" issue in Illinois. Last count I remember, Il was one of 12 that do not allow concealed carry and as long as that ward healer and his minions remain in Chicago, that is not likely to change. Did you see His Inarticulatenesse's response to the Tampa plane incident the other week? I am paraphrasing but essentially it was that we need more laws governing flight instruction. It's harder to get a driver's license, etc. Same old conditioned response to any tragedy or crime - pass more laws. Let's give the appearance of having DONE SOMETHING about the situation since appearances are more important than actually taking the difficult positions required to solve problems. Self-aggrandizing, self-important, short-sighted, vain and preening little despot who lives only to be re-elected. If ever there was a case for term limits, this guy is it. Maybe the Republican majorities on the collar counties can eventually choke him off. I see no other way to escape his disproportinate influence or bring rational discourse to the concealed carry issue.
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