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AdamsQuailHunter
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Posted - 12/04/2017 :  8:20:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Op-Ed: I am a Cherokee woman. Elizabeth Warren is not.

https://thinkprogress.org/elizabeth-warren-is-not-cherokee-c1ec6c91b696/

Barzillia
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  08:08:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, apparently she is not.

When she identified herself as having a tribal ancestry in part, was she being knowingly malicious, or deceptive ?

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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jim_lemay
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  10:21:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DECEPTIVE
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11b6r
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  10:41:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The question is not "What part Cherokee are you?" (Answer is ALL of me!)

The question is- do you maintain tribal affiliation. And yes, there IS a structured process for that. And no, she never has.

As the writer points out in the Op-Ed piece (well written BTW) Native American is the only group that the question of "percentage" comes up. Warren has been deliberately deceptive, and frankly, has behaved in a manner that would have had anyone else crucified as a bigot.

"Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can borrow mine."
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droptop
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  1:27:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
During High School dated an Indian girl named "Six-Killer".

At the time supposed it refered someone being able to drink a six pack and still stand with honor. Later found out that wasn't true.

Trump could have named Pocahontas Little Beaver but smartly choose the former.

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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/07/2017 :  11:28:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jim_lemay

DECEPTIVE



Your opinion is based upon what ?

How do you know her intent ?


"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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us55840
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Posted - 12/08/2017 :  11:19:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barzillia

quote:
Originally posted by jim_lemay

DECEPTIVE



Your opinion is based upon what ?

How do you know her intent ?






Seems crystal clear to those with common sense IMO.


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Don McManus
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Posted - 12/08/2017 :  12:17:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Supposedly, her family lore was that there was a Cherokee blood line 5 generations ago. This has not been documented.

Warren, until up for promotion at Harvard as a minority professor, pretty much claimed to be white. She was an Indian for a few years, was tenured, and became white again.

There is no reason for her to doubt the family lore, but we have to first believe that her parents actually told her that she was part Cherokee. Perhaps they did her siblings support her. Some of her cousins, particularly those she has not met, dispute the claim.

I would apply the term opportunistic and evasive more than deceptive.

Does not change the fact, however, that someone as demonstrably brain-dead as Elisabeth Warren should not have been a professor at any university, and it much kinder to suggest she used an affirmative action program to advance rather than sleeping her way to the top.


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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/08/2017 :  1:52:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Claims of Native American heritage back then required documentary proof to be accepted for affirmative action programs.

Usually that came in the form of a tribal card, based upon the Dawes Rolls.

Don't know about you all, but my family had the story that we were part Choctaw. Even have some pictures from the 1880's to 90's with some pretty Choctaw looking folks in it.

But not on the rolls.

Many people did not admit to Indian bloodlines way back then, as it was not necessarily something socially desirable.

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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spasmcreek
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Posted - 12/20/2017 :  04:08:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
will the fake indian ever be held accountable for her lies of political expediency or will she just keep her exalted position till she soaks up high retirement benefits
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CJ7nvrstk
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Posted - 12/23/2017 :  12:10:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Self identifies as a scalping savage, doesn't hurt anyone! Leave her alone!
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djh860
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Posted - 12/31/2017 :  12:37:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and because she is a super uber liberal the media gives her a full pass on her lies.
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Barzillia
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Posted - 12/31/2017 :  6:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which liberal media did not report it ?

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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wifetrained
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Posted - 12/31/2017 :  9:47:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, take your pick.
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Barzillia
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Posted - 01/01/2018 :  09:44:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wifetrained

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, take your pick.




A simple Google search for the first outlet demonstrates otherwise :

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elizabeth-warren-slams-donald-trump-loser-threat-twitter/story?id=37814563

No point in going on with the rest of the news outlets, is there ?

"Most people fancy themselves innocent of those crimes of which they cannot be convicted." Seneca

"Hope has two children: anger, and courage." Augustine, Confessions

Der Verzagten aber und Ungläubigen und Greulichen und Totschläger und Hurer und Zauberer und Abgöttischen und aller Lügner, deren Teil wird sein in dem Pfuhl, der mit Feuer und Schwefel brennt; das ist der andere Tod.


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Mr. Perfect
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Posted - 01/12/2018 :  12:42:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jim_lemay

DECEPTIVE

Yep.

"When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace." -Jesus

Gen 49:24  But his [Joseph's] bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

1Sa 17:49  And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth. 

But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. -Jesus

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Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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Missouri Mule K30
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Posted - 01/04/2019 :  10:54:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While she has been proven not to be Native American, maybe she should
be looked at for being tri-polar.

Can she be impeached for being unstable, fantasizing? Well maybe not, then a testing process may be legislated and take another ten years to figure out.
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 01/05/2019 :  04:34:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
anything for a better govt blanket....
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us55840
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USA
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Posted - 01/05/2019 :  08:31:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 11b6r

The question is not "What part Cherokee are you?" (Answer is ALL of me!)

The question is- do you maintain tribal affiliation. And yes, there IS a structured process for that. And no, she never has.

As the writer points out in the Op-Ed piece (well written BTW) Native American is the only group that the question of "percentage" comes up. Warren has been deliberately deceptive, and frankly, has behaved in a manner that would have had anyone else crucified as a bigot.



Remember, it's perfectly fine for Democrats to flat out lie about most anything and get away with it......been going on for a long time and other democrats NEVER call them on it.

The government has no rights. Only the PEOPLE have rights that empower the government.

This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it.
Abraham Lincoln

Life is not the way it's supposed to be. It is they way it is. The way we cope with it, is what makes the difference.

All comments posted here are my opinion as expressed via the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.

United States Army ~ 1966-1968 USARSUPTHAI 1967-1968
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Missouri Mule K30
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USA
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Posted - 01/13/2019 :  07:44:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It may be because they may be unstable as well
and do not want to be outed. After all there may
not be other employment elsewhere in the jobs market.
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spasmcreek
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Posted - 01/13/2019 :  6:32:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so i fudged on my entrance exam, i really did not want to study or cram.....they took my history and swallowed it all, so i got to college early that fall....convinced them all i was a hi-a-watha when really i was just a lie-a-watha...rode that pony till it was a horse, benefitted me the most of course....where i studied and where i taught admitted no mistake, so they just confirmed my deception first rate...now i pray this will not affect my election chances, as i would hate to miss the inaugural dances...on integrity and honor i got a PASS, so stick my win up your AZZ
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