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Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver

buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
edited April 12 in General Discussion
the Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets always bring to mind Jerry Shriver.

(from https://ultimatesniper.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Untold-True-Story-of-Mad-Dog-Shriver.pdf, which is from "SOG: The Secret Wars of America?s Commandos in Vietnam" by Maj. John Plaster

Mad Dog led dozens of covert missions into Laos & Cambodia until his luck ran out. There undoubtedly was not a single recon man in SOG more accomplished or renowned than Mad Dog Shriver.

In the late 1960s, no Special Forces trooper at Ft. Bragg even breathed those top secret letters, "S-O-G," but everyone had heard of the legendary Studies and Observations Group Green Beret recon team leader, Sergeant First Class Jerry Shriver, dubbed a "mad dog" by Radio Hanoi. It was Jerry Shriver who'd spoken the most famous rejoinder in SOG history, radioing his superiors not to worry that NVA forces had encircled his tiny team. "No, no," he explained, "I've got 'em right where I want 'em -- surrounded from the inside."

Fully decked out, Mad Dog was a walking arsenal with an imposing array of sawed-off shotgun or suppressed submachine gun, pistols, knives and grenades. "He looked like Rambo," First Sergeant Billy Greenwood thought. Blond, tall and thin, Shriver?s face bore chiseled features around piercing blue eyes. "There was no soul in the eyes, no emotion," thought SOG Captain Bill O?Rourke. "They were just eyes."

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By early 1969, Shriver was well into his third continuous year in SOG, leading top secret intelligence gathering teams deep into the enemy?s clandestine Cambodian sanctuaries where he?d teased death scores of times. Unknown to him, however, forces beyond his control at the highest levels of government in Hanoi and Washington were steering his fate.

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Mad Dog -- the Man and the Myth

There was no one at CCS quite like Mad Dog Shriver. Medal of Honor recipient Jim Fleming, who flew USAF Hueys for SOG, found Shriver, "the quintessential warrior-loner, anti-social, possessed by what he was doing, the best team, always training, constantly training." Shriver rarely spoke and walked around camp for days wearing the same clothes. In his sleep he cradled a loaded rifle, and in the club he'd buy a case of beer, open every can, then go alone to a corner and drink them all. Though he'd been awarded a Silver Star, five Bronze Stars and the Soldiers Medal, the 28-year old Green Beret didn?t care about decorations.

But he did care about the Montagnard hill tribesmen, and spent all his money on them, even collected food, clothes, whatever people would give, to distribute in Yard villages. He was the only American at CCS who lived in the Montagnard barracks. "He was almost revered by the Montagnards," O'Rourke says.

"He had this way of looking at you with his eyes half-open," recon man Frank Burkhart remembers. "If he looked at me like that, I'd just about freeze."

Shriver always had been different. In the early 1960s, when Rich Ryan served with him in the 7th Army's Long Range Patrol Company in Germany, Shriver?s buddies called him "Digger" since they thought he looked like an undertaker. As a joke his LRRP comrades concocted their own religion, "The Mahoganites," which worshipped a mahogany statue. "So we would carry Shriver around on an empty bunk with a sheet over him and candles on the corners," recalled Ryan, "and chant, 'Maaa-haa-ga-ney, Maaa-haa-ga-ney.' Scared the hell out of new guys."

Medal of Honor recipient Fleming says Shriver "convinced me that for the rest of my life I would not go into a bar and cross someone I didn't know."


ah, yes. the bar story. they didn't tell that here.

"As could be expected, his exploits at the NCO club were legendary, he was not their favorite customer. Typically, he would walk in wearing his smoking jacket and sometimes his derby, buy a case of beer, take it to a table in the corner and open every can. Then he would put a pistol on the table and drink it all. He had no tolerance for wannabes and more then once had shot up a club because someone had tried to impress him with their exploits. He preferred living with his men and was reputed to wear the same set of clothes for long periods of time. He carried a sawed off shotgun or a silenced M-3 .45 caliber ?grease-gun? that weighed over ten pounds, in addition to 5 or 6 .38 caliber pistols. He had personally killed over a hundred NVA."

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"Klaus, the dog, was his only close companion, and once another recon team had gotten the dog drunk and it had crapped on the floor of the club. The team members rubbed the dog?s nose in it then threw the poor dog out the door. Shriver walked in to the club while the same team was there, bought his usual case of beer, proceeded to drop his pants and crap on the floor. He then placed his pistol on the table and asked if anybody wanted to rub his nose in it and throw him out. Nobody took up his offer."

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But no recon man was better in the woods. "He was like having a dog you could talk to," O'Rourke explained. "He could hear and sense things; he was more alive in the woods than any other human being I've ever met." During a company operation on the Cambodian border Shriver and an old Yard compatriot were sitting against a tree, O'Rourke recalled. "Suddenly he sat bolt upright, they looked at each other, shook their heads and leaned back against the tree. I'm watching this and wondering, what the hell's going on? And all of a sudden these birds flew by, then a nano-second later, way off in the distance, 'Boom-boom!' -- shotguns. They'd heard that, ascertained what it was and relaxed before I even knew the birds were flying."

Shriver once went up to SOG?s Command and Control North for a mission into the DMZ where Captain Jim Storter encountered him just before insert. "He had pistols stuck everywhere on him, I mean, he had five or six .38 caliber revolvers." Storter asked him, "Sergeant Shriver, would you like a CAR-15 or M-16 or something? You know the DMZ is not a real mellow area to go into." But Mad Dog replied, "No, them long guns'll get you in trouble and besides, if I need more than these I got troubles anyhow."

Rather than stand down after an operation, Shriver would go out with another team. "He lived for the game; that's all he lived for," Dale Libby, a fellow CCS man said. Shriver once promised everyone he was going on R&R but instead sneaked up to Plei Djerang Special Forces camp to go to the field with Rich Ryan's A Team.

During a short leave stateside in 1968, fellow Green Beret Larry White hung out with Shriver, whose only real interest was finding a lever action .444 Marlin rifle. Purchasing one of the powerful Marlins, Shriver shipped it back to SOG so he could carry it into Cambodia, "to bust bunkers," probably the only levergun used in the war.

And the Real Jerry Shriver

Unless you were one of Mad Dog's close friends, the image was perfect prowess -- but the truth was, Shriver confided to fellow SOG Green Beret Sammy Hernadez, he feared death and didn't think he'd live much longer. He'd beat bad odds too many times, and could feel a terrible payback looming.

"He wanted to quit," Medal of Honor winner Fred Zabitosky could see. "He really wanted to quit, Jerry did. I said, 'Why don't you just tell them I want off, I don't want to run any more?' He said he would but he never did; just kept running."

The 5th Special Forces Group executive officer, Lieutenant Colonel Charlie Norton, had been watching SOG recon casualties skyrocket and grew concerned about men like Mad Dog whose lives had become a continuous flirtation with death. Norton went to the 5th Group commander and urged, "Don't approve the goddamn extensions these guys are asking for. You approve it again, your chances of killing that guy are very, very good." But the group commander explained SOG needed experienced men for its high priority missions. "*," Norton snapped, "you're signing that guy's death warrant."

Eventually 5th Group turned down a few extensions but only a very few; the most experienced recon men never had extensions denied. Never.

"Mad Dog was wanting to get out of recon and didn't know how," said recon team leader Sonny Franks, though the half-measure came when Shriver left recon to join his teammate O?Rourke?s raider company. And now the COSVN raid would make a fitting final operation; Shriver could face his fear head-on, charge right into COSVN?s mysterious mouth and afterward at last call it quits.

Into COSVN?s Mouth The morning of 24 April 1969, while high-flying B-52s winged their way from distant Guam, the SOG raider company lined up beside the airfield at Quan Loi, South Vietnam, only 20 miles southeast of COSVN's secret lair.

But just five Hueys were flyable that morning, enough to lift only two platoons; the big bombers could not be delayed, which meant Lieutenant Bob Killebrew's 3rd Platoon would have to stand by at Quan Loi while the 1st Platoon under First Lieutenant Walter Marcantel, and 2nd Platoon under First Lieutenant Greg Harrigan, raided COSVN. Capt. O'Rourke and Mad Dog didn't like it, but they could do nothing.*

Nor could they do anything about their minimal fire support. Although whole waves of B-52s were about to dump thousands of bombs into COSVN, the highly classified Cambodian Rules of Engagement forbad tactical air strikes; it was better to lose an American-led SOG team, the State Department rules suggested, then leave documentable evidence that U.S. F4 Phantoms had bombed this "neutral" territory. It was a curious logic so concerned about telltale napalm streaks or cluster bomb fins, but unconcerned about B-52 bomb craters from horizon to horizon. Chief SOG Cavanaugh found the contradiction "ridiculous," but he could not change the rules.

The B-52 contrails were not yet visible when the raiding force Hueys began cranking and the raiders boarded; Capt. O'Rourke would be aboard the first bird and Shriver on the last so they'd be at each end of the landing Hueys. As they lifted off for the tenminute flight, the B-52s were making final alignments for the run-in. Minutes later the lead chopper had to turn back because of mechanical problems; O'Rourke could only wish the others Godspeed. Command passed to an operations officer in the second bird who'd come along for the raid, Captain Paul Cahill.

Momentarily the raiders could see dirt geysers bounding skyward amid collapsing trees. Then as the dust settled a violin-shaped clearing took form and the Hueys descended in-trail, hovered for men to leap off, then climbed away.

Then fire exploded from all directions, horrible fire that skimmed the ground and mowed down anyone who didn?t dive into a bomb crater or roll behind a fallen treetrunk.

From the back of the LZ, Mad Dog radioed that a machinegun bunker to his left-front had his *(Greg Harrigan and I had been boyhood friends in northeast Minneapolis.) men pinned and asked if anyone could fire at it to relieve the pressure. Holed up in a bomb crater beneath murderous fire, Capt. Cahill, 1st Lt. Marcantel and a medic, Sergeant Ernest Jamison, radioed that they were pinned, too. Then Jamison dashed out to retrieve a wounded man; heavy fire cut him down, killing him on the spot.

No one else could engage the machinegun that trapped Shriver's men -- it was up to Mad Dog. Skittish Yards looked to Shriver and his half-grin restored a sense of confidence. Then they were on their feet, charging -- Shriver was his old self, running to the sound of guns, a True Believer Yard on either side, all of them dashing through the flying bullets, into the treeline, into the very guts of Mad Dog's great nemesis, COSVN.

And Mad Dog Shriver was never seen again.

The Fight Continues

At the other end of the LZ, Jamison's body lay just a few yards from the crater where Capt. Cahill heard bullets cracking and RPGs rocking the ground. When Cahill lifted his head, an AK round hit him in the mouth, deflected up and destroyed an eye. Badly wounded, he collapsed.

In a nearby crater, young Lt. Greg Harrigan directed helicopter gunships whose rockets and mini-guns were the only thing holding off the aggressive NVA. Already, Harrigan reported, more than half his platoon were killed or wounded. For 45 minutes the Green Beret lieutenant kept the enemy at bay, then Harrigan, too, was hit. He died minutes later.

Bill O'Rourke tried to land on another helicopter but his bird couldn't penetrate the NVA veil of lead. Lieutenant Colonel Earl Trabue, their CCS Commander, arrived and flew overhead with O?Rourke but they could do little.

Hours dragged by. Wounded men laid untreated, exposed in the sun. Several times the Hueys attempted to retrieve them and each time heavy fire drove them off. One door gunner was badly wounded. Finally a passing Australian twin-jet Canberra bomber from No. 2 Squadron at Phan Rang heard their predicament on the emergency radio frequency, ignored the fact it was Cambodia, and dropped a bombload which, O?Rourke reports, "broke the stranglehold those guys were in, and it allowed us to go in." Only 1st Lt. Marcantel was still directing air, and finally he had to bring ordnance so close it wounded himself and his surviving nine Montagnards.

One medic ran to Harrigan's hole and attempted to lift his body out but couldn't. "They were pretty well drained physically and emotionally," O'Rourke said. Finally, three Hueys raced in and picked up 15 wounded men. Lieutenant Dan Hall carried out a radio operator, then managed to drag Lt. Harrigan's body to an aircraft. Thus ended the COSVN raid.

A Time for Reflection

Afterward Chief SOG Cavanaugh talked to survivors and learned, "The fire was so heavy and so intense that even the guys trying to [evade] and move out of the area were being cut down." It seemed almost an ambush. "That really shook them up at MACV, to realize anybody survived that [B-52] strike," Col. Cavanaugh said.

The heavy losses especially affected Brig. Gen. Davidson, the MACV J-2, who blamed himself for the catastrophe. "General," Chief SOG Cavanaugh assured him, "if I'd have felt we were going to lose people like that, I wouldn't have put them in there."

It?s that ambush-like reception despite a B-52 strike that opens the disturbing possibility of treachery and, it turns out, it was more than a mere possibility. One year after the COSVN raid, the NSA twice intercepted enemy messages warning of imminent SOG operations which could only have come from a mole or moles in SOG headquarters. It would only be long after the war that it became clear Hanoi?s Trinh Sat had penetrated SOG, inserting at least one high ranking South Vietnamese officer in SOG whose treachery killed untold Americans, including, most likely, the COSVN raiders.

Of those raiders, Lt. Walter Marcantel survived his wounds only to die six months later in a parachuting accident at Ft. Devens, Mass., while Capt. Paul Cahill was medically retired. Eventually, Green Beret medic Ernest Jamison's body was recovered.

But those lost in the COSVN raid have not been forgotten. Under a beautiful spring sky on Memorial Day, 1993, with American flags waving and an Army Reserve Huey strewing flower petals as it passed low-level, members of Special Forces Association Chapter XX assembled at Lt. Greg Harrigan?s grave in Minneapolis, Minn. Before the young lieutenant?s family, a Special Forces honor guard placed a green beret at his grave, at last conferring some recognition to the fallen SOG man, a gesture the COSVN raid?s high classification had made impossible a quarter-century earlier. Until now, neither Harrigan?s family nor the families of the other lost men knew the full story of the top secret COSVN raid.

But the story remains incomplete. As in the case of SOG?s other MIAs, Hanoi continues to deny any knowledge of Jerry Shriver.

Capt. O'Rourke concluded Mad Dog died that day. "I felt very privileged to have been his friend," O?Rourke says, "and when he died I grieved as much as for my younger brother when he was killed. Twenty some-odd years later, it still sticks in my craw that I wasn't there. I wish I had been there."

There remains a popular myth among SOG veterans, that any day now Mad Dog Shriver will emerge from the Cambodian jungle as if only ten minutes have gone by, look right and left and holler, "Hey! Where?d everybody go?" Indeed, to those who knew him and fought beside him, Mad Dog will live forever.

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    yoshmysteryoshmyster Member Posts: 21,059 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I wonder if anyone wrote a book about him? I'll go see.
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    remingtonoaksremingtonoaks Member Posts: 26,251 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Quite the character he was according to what you posted here. I would Be interested in learning more about him
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    jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 25,662 ******
    edited November -1
    Thanks for posting that, buschmaster.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    jimdeere wrote:
    Thanks for posting that, buschmaster.



    +1

    Very interesting read. Quite the Character/Man. Much Respect, Sir.
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,239 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Great story, thanks for posting. So they never found the body? I wonder if Shriver was captured.
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited June 2019
    from what else I read the NVA generally didn't acknowledge having SOG guys dead or alive. they simply disappeared.
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    Cornflk1Cornflk1 Member Posts: 3,715 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for posting.
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    wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very interesting and sad story.

    RIP Jerry "Mad Dog " Shriver.
    "What is truth?'
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GreatGuns wrote:
    Thanks for posting the story. Something isn't right though and I believe there's more to the story that's been buried. Many arriving soldiers built names for themselves by establishing a bravado personality. I remember several, but only a few that I met came home. Those types usually got themselves shot the first or second time out, sometimes others too because of their actions. Some became heroes by the perspective of others, most real heroes in VN were quiet, humble and ultimately unheard of. As "cool" as some may view Shriver, it sounds like he may have bailed as easily as the possibility that he was captured. He could even still be there with a large family, living in what's now paradise. Far from an uncommon decision and I've always wondered how accurate our MIA numbers were. KIA's need a body or a witness of death and paperwork. When someone goes missing and no trace is ever found, are they dead or alive? :|

    Jim





    Sorry Jim, but that post was completely gratuitous to this thread.



    Sgt. Shriver being a Green Beret, and a Recon specialist, had no need to create a persona. Nor did he sound like the type to disappear, when his Comrades were in dire need of help. Simply my opinion.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I stand by my comments and post Sir.


    As you said, You did not know this Gentleman.


    Why throw out a comment to denigrate/becloud his Service?
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    No disrespect intended, merely stating my opinion.
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    buschmasterbuschmaster Member Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ??? I don't understand why (or why not). the C&P of the OP was from a book Maj. John Plaster wrote, if it merits that, it merits an appearance in SOF too I'm sure. unlike many others though I'm not sure why (or why not) about that. maybe this guy was more? did more? there must be a reason, in the eyes of those authors, why he stood above the rest. you can probably trust their judgement.

    nothing he did sounds like a poser. and I would refer you to the OP where it says "He had no tolerance for wannabes and more than once had shot up a club because someone had tried to impress him with their exploits".

    the dude was in the middle of a hellacious firefight with inadequate air support to break it loose. I really doubt he traipsed away from that.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ??? I don't understand why (or why not). the C&P of the OP was from a book Maj. John Plaster wrote, if it merits that, it merits an appearance in SOF too I'm sure. unlike many others though I'm not sure why (or why not) about that. maybe this guy was more? did more? there must be a reason, in the eyes of those authors, why he stood above the rest. you can probably trust their judgement.

    nothing he did sounds like a poser. and I would refer you to the OP where it says "He had no tolerance for wannabes and more than once had shot up a club because someone had tried to impress him with their exploits".

    the dude was in the middle of a hellacious firefight with inadequate air support to break it loose. I really doubt he traipsed away from that.




    Glad you weighed back in Sir.


    I agree with you, for what it is worth.
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    Sam06Sam06 Member Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I didn't know him but a bunch of my Mentors did.

    Drank a few toasts to him at the the Green Beret club at FBNC.

    Drive on Jerry I hope you took a lot of them with you.
    RLTW

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    select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,453 ✭✭✭✭
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GreatGuns wrote:
    * Edit. Once a comment is misinterpreted, whether it's about the subject or delivery, it's over. You can't make someone understand what you wrote, meant or otherwise. Just not worth trying anymore. Some people just like to find fault here. :|




    Jim, unlike others here, I have never tried, "to find fault," with your posts. (You know/are aware of that.)

    Your post denigrating/downgrading an individual "you had never heard of," (who seemed to have given his all,) struck me wrong, (hence my post.)


    No insult intended towards you.


    Just the way I read/saw it. (Call em', as I see em', most everytime.)











    (I appreciate you redacting your post.)


    -Ken-
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    allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,239 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Fascinating reading about the Mad Dog. I have read quite a few books about 'Nam. Of course it was common for a guy to carry a pistol, or two. But I never heard of this, he carried five .38 revolvers. Along with a submachine gun.
    This tells you the kind of combat he liked, close quarters.
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    KenK/84BravoKenK/84Bravo Member Posts: 12,055 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I thoroughly enjoyed the read.

    Much RESPECT, to this Gentleman.

    If "Captured," I am sure he endured unimaginable Torture. I personally hope, he was killed outright.

    Gave his All, either way. Much RESPECT.
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    rangerjoe82rangerjoe82 Member Posts: 1

    guess i get to be the bad guy here and tell ya thats not even remotely close , completely fabricated good grief

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