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Deadwood - wow! The language!
WearyTraveler
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While surfing last night for something new and binge worthy, I saw that ?Deadwood? is available. I really liked the actor that starred in Justified so I figured I?d give it a try.
Wow! Every sentence (almost) was littered with vulgarity. F this! MFer! CSer! Pu! Holy cow! And by both male and female actors.
And with all the big names staring in it. My God, the vulgarity...
Now I?m no prude and I?ll whirl out the F bomb on a regular basis. But the language on that series pilot really turned me off. I love the actors but will not be watching the rest of that series.
Why does Hollywood think that the route to ratings is thru the sewer?
Wow! Every sentence (almost) was littered with vulgarity. F this! MFer! CSer! Pu! Holy cow! And by both male and female actors.
And with all the big names staring in it. My God, the vulgarity...
Now I?m no prude and I?ll whirl out the F bomb on a regular basis. But the language on that series pilot really turned me off. I love the actors but will not be watching the rest of that series.
Why does Hollywood think that the route to ratings is thru the sewer?
”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
- GEORGE ORWELL -
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I have watched it all and was surprised at the nudity.
Margaret Thatcher
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
Mark Twain
Still - it?s painful to sit there and be assaulted by it. I guess I?m a snowflake that?s been triggered by ?talk.?
...so snowflakes can recognize it as a good script.
As for the language it's no different than listening to a room full of Irish. Like them
You get to see Calamity Janes boobies, they are small! She was the divorce lawyer in SOA, two totally different characters. In SOA she was quiet as a church mouse, prim and proper, in DW, holy cow what a mouth!
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
I exit any movie that begins with curse words as the primary means of communication. That is a sure sign of trash by every individual having anything to do with its production.
you would have walked out from most of his plays.
Here are some examples of slang or sexual language which were clearly understood by Shakespeare's original audiences, but may be less obvious to audiences today. These examples were put together by Heloise Senechal, from the Complete Works of Shakespeare (2008) published by the RSC and Macmillan.
FROM HENRY IV, PART II, ACT 2, SCENE 1
MISTRESS QUICKLY: Alas the day. Take heed of him: he stabbed me in mine own house, and that most beastly. He cares not what mischief he doth, if his weapon be out. He will foin like any devil. He will spare neither man, woman, nor child.
FANG: If I can close with him, I care not for his thrust.
MISTRESS QUICKLY: No, nor I neither. I'll be at your elbow.
FANG: If I but fist him once, if he come but within my vice ?
MISTRESS QUICKLY: I am undone with his going. I warrant he is an infinitive thing upon my score. Good Master Fang, hold him sure: good Master Snare, let him not 'scape. He comes continuantly to Pie-corner ? saving your manhoods ? to buy a saddle, and he is indited to dinner to the Lubber's-head in Lombard Street, to Master Smooth's the silkman. I pra'ye, since my exion is entered and my case so openly known to the world, let him be brought in to his answer. A hundred mark is a long one for a poor lone woman to bear, and I have borne, and borne, and borne, and have been fubbed off, and fubbed off, from this day to that day, that it is a shame to be thought on. There is no honesty in such dealing, unless a woman should be made an * and a beast, to bear every knave's wrong.
meanings:
stabbed hurt financially / penetrated sexually
house inn / *
weapon sword / *
foin thrust
close with fight / embrace sexually
fist punch / *
come advance / orgasm
vice grip
undone ruined financially / sexually, in terms of reputation
going departure / sexual activity
infinitive i.e. infinite, huge
thing item / *
score tavern bill, accounts / *
Pie-corner area in London famous for cooks' shops, saddlers and prostitution ('pie' and 'corner' were both slang terms for the * )
manhoods honours / penises
saddle horse's saddle / whore
indited i.e. invited
exion action / *
case lawsuit / *
hundred mark ?66 / large *
borne been patient / borne the weight of a man during sex
fubbed off fobbed off / *
dealing behaviour / sexual activity
wrong wrongdoing / shaming * / illegitimate child
Agreed - if you can?t write a good story, don?t try to entertain with vulgarities.
Deadwood was basically a lawless and Godless town.
There is better entertainment out there.
You know James, some people can't tolerate the language and I get that.
Not only do I "get it" I understand and respect it.
That being said, language does not bother my wife and myself. Maybe because I too can have a foul moth? Not necessarily something I'm proud of, but.......As they say, it is what it is!
I had to go visit Deadwood after watching the series and do a little research on the history of Deadwood and the characters. They were some truly colorful characters to say the least!
We just enjoyed the series and the movie. I think the language was intentional to give the viewer the illusion of a virtually Godless and lawless town.
We also enjoyed the Sopranos. And like Deadwood we waited for our children to be moved out to watch it because of the language!
Keep in mind that there were people from all different parts of the world questing for all that gold and there were just as many languages in use.
THE SWEAR WORDS WERE THE ONLY COMMON LINK BETWEEN CULTURES. (if I call you an * in any language, you will probably understand !)
My first trip to Deadwood SD was in the 1950's before it all change into what it has become with legalized gambling. Now nearly every building on main street has been converted into a casino. I've been to Deadwood nearly every year since 1962 when attending the annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Any attempt to depict 'original Deadwood' is just a cheap fake attempt and nothing even close to how it was or even close to how it was back in the 50's.
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
Do you ever head a little farther west to Alzada, Mt?
The Stoneville Saloon!!
We stop every year on our way to Elk and Deer camp!! Crazy place.......
Regarding swearing - I find I have greater respect for a man / woman that drops a couple F-Bombs into a conversation in business.
FWIW, I watched the series after watching Justified(my all-time favorite series).
Jon
Same here...the language in the movie was no different than the language used in the series 12+ years ago. They sure do like using the C word...
Hello Ed!
My wife tolerates it a lot more than, and I have always regretted it...sooner or later, when I have cursed...but not so much when I was totally ticked off and bent on calling some sorry SOB(s) every name in the book.
I might have watched the subject movie in its entirety...I just don't recall seeing it. Hollywood cranks out so much racial hatred nowadays that they very seldom pass up an opportunity to demonize the white race, either by making them look like foul mouthed idiots, stupid looking people, or as racist as the day is long. Seriously, though, I don't find listening to a constant stream of doing this and that in practically every sentence, however, it is more tolerable and understandable when someone is in a rage against their enemies.
I might have to check the movie out myself!
She also played a captain in the tv show "Life". I miss that show. That show made me eat more fruits.
Alzada was first established in 1878, by 9th U.S. Infantry soldiers as Camp Devin, on the Deadwood, Dakota Territory to Fort Keogh, Montana Territory telegraph line. It was called the Little Missouri River Telegraph Station, and manned by soldiers of the 7th U.S. Cavalry. Then it was named Stoneville, after the local bartender Lou Stone. It served as a stagecoach stop between Deadwood and Miles City, Montana. It was the site of a gun battle in 1884 between local authorities and rustlers known as the Exelby gang. The town's name was changed from Stoneville in 1885, because of confusion with another similarly named community. The name "Alzada" came from an early settler named Laura Alzada Shelden. Later settlers of the area were largely homesteaders. In 1890, Private Peter Thompson, a 7th Cavalry survivor and recipient of the Medal of Honor for the Battle of the Little Bighorn, moved from Lead, Dakota Territory, with his brother William and homesteaded north of Alzada on the Little Missouri River at Nine Mile Creek.
Alzada was briefly in the news in September 1997, when a B-1 bomber crashed nearby.
Big town, population 29.
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
So..........have you been there?
I live the history of these old little towns!
I recall "studying" Shakespeare in high school.....and hated it......why is it so important that this vile filth is taught in public schools? I hate it even more now, than back then.
Buddy wanted me to go about two years ago but didn't work out. He's been there several times.
On the bucket list...maybe this August.
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
Blood makes you related. Loyalty makes you family.
I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
The last few years I find myself on 212 quite often, it knocks roughly 80 miles off the trip from Rapid City to Billings.
A little advice, don?t run 212 at night. Starting after Colony deer flood the road from there all the way to Broadus. After Broadus the deer are fewer but still there.
Then from Ashland all the way to 90 you will be dodging Indians, they love to travel by foot at night, may be slightly intoxicated. Watch out for horses and dogs as well, they tend to roam.
If you do run it at night, get behind a cow truck and chase him. Most likely he has a huge Bambi Basher and has places to be.
During the day truck traffic can be maddening, split speed limits 🤬🤬 and many of the governed tinker toy truck companies have discovered that road. Then you have those who give the finger to the speed limit signs and pass those governed tinker toys.
Fun road!! And the saloon, well during Sturgis is when the girls show up 😁
Shakespeare is "Vile Filth" ???
That passage I posted was just a small bit of a larger play, just like sex is a small bit of life.
You ask why this is taught in schools???
But you will love a movie about WW2, Called "BAND OF BROTHERS".
Where do you think this title came from, some writer in Hollyweild?
Many of Shakespeare"s words have been used down thru the years, he was that good of a writer.
Here's another bit of one of his plays, used in another "modern" army movie.
It's about courage, loyalty, love of your fellow man.
Maybe if more people today read Shakespeare, the world won't be so screwed up.....
"""This day is call'd the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian."
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words?
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester?
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember?d?
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day. """