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AK47 accuracy
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Got a new PSA AK the other day and have been shooting it.
The good news- Every time I pick it up I shoot 30 rounds. It is a lot of fun. It fits me and I like to handle it and carry it on my back.
There is just something about a made in the USA AK that I find attractive, not sure what. Maybe because I am a fan of capitalism and how it beat the communist bastards in the cold war.
I am getting 7" groups with it at 100 yards. Is this normal? I have always heard they are not accurate but this is the first one I have owned. I haven't tried different ammo. I have a couple thousand rounds of Herters 7.62 x 39 so figured I would shoot it up.
My SKS which shoots 4" groups at 100 yards is the same caliber and is much more accurate than the AK.
(Of course this all happened prior to me loosing the gun and ammo in a boating accident)
The good news- Every time I pick it up I shoot 30 rounds. It is a lot of fun. It fits me and I like to handle it and carry it on my back.
There is just something about a made in the USA AK that I find attractive, not sure what. Maybe because I am a fan of capitalism and how it beat the communist bastards in the cold war.
I am getting 7" groups with it at 100 yards. Is this normal? I have always heard they are not accurate but this is the first one I have owned. I haven't tried different ammo. I have a couple thousand rounds of Herters 7.62 x 39 so figured I would shoot it up.
My SKS which shoots 4" groups at 100 yards is the same caliber and is much more accurate than the AK.
(Of course this all happened prior to me loosing the gun and ammo in a boating accident)
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With good ammo I think they would do better, But it is a lot of causes for their crapy accuracy;
-The ammo is shoddy especially milsurp
-They are made to be robust and super reliable so the tolerances are not too close(You would not believe how many dead ragheads I have seen with a jammed AK)
-The sights suck
-The triggers suck
That is just my opinion on the AK.
In any case, don't expect to out score anyone on the range who is shooting the lowest cost AR type rifle.
We have enough gun laws, what we need is IDIOT control.
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I thought getting old would take longer. :shock:
I had the chance to buy a Steyr 5.45 bolt action, ("Berlin Wall, East German Sniper Rifle.") Back in about 2006-2008. Here on GB. It was pricey, but very nice. I wish I could have sprung for it then. ($1,200-1,800.)
One of the ones that got away, wished I had purchased it.
That is the one I regret/think about. Quite often,
Ouch, I feel your pain on missing that one. Imagine what that same rifle goes for today. 5.45 is such an underrated caliber especially in short barrel applications.
I So wish I had bought that one. I regret it every since.
I have shot one and I find it more accurate than say a SVD. Again the ammo is really a factor on how well they shoot.
The rifle was called the SSG-82 and they were intended as a SWAT type sniper rifle(used in the 1-300 meter range). The scopes were 4x and very bullet proof. They were SSN'ed to the gun and were not meant for much fiddling with.
Remember in the real urban/swat sniper role a good body shot at 300 meters is really what is considered ideal. Picked shots at the head around 100-200m is all that is required. The SAS used CZ sniper rifles in 22-250 for urban sniping because they wanted to minimize ricochets and collateral damage. A 55gr hollow point in a 22-250 will not exit the body in any real killing comfiguration where a 308 will.
The 5.45 Russian has some real good potential as an urban sniping round kind of like the old 22ppc especially because the round is made to cavitate and if it exits it is in fragments.
This is how the JAG got the use of the OTM ammo in 5.56 and 7.62.................ect authorized, it was made to be more accurate not more deadly.
Thanks Sam. I would love to be able to come up with the auction info. for that rifle. That is the one, out of all my GB views, that haunt me.
Just started a new job. Could not commit. Shoulda/woulda/coulda. The one that got away.
They have become kind of spendy this is the only one I could find for sale on GB
On other sights they run about 1800-2500.
I guess CAI only imported 600 of them, the rest are overseas or in other hands. We had 2 in our foreign weapons armory.
BTW they have rear locking lugs like a Steyr SSG and a modified AK-74 magazine that holds 5-6 rounds.
The nice thing about the design of the 5.45 is that it'll over stabilize when hitting a hard target and will yaw when it hits soft tissue. I'm really surprised that nobody has designed a 5.56 with the hollow nose cavity like the 7n6. Another cool thing is that it will perform the same even with low
velocity ammo.
it's not the ammo if you're using Herter's. I believe that 's made by S&B and better than any combloc milsurp irregardless.
and finally have someone else try shooting it.
Dayum. The $1200-$1500 asking price would have been a bargain. Oh, .............. to go back again.
I have an AK ( wasr ?)? The "cheap" $300 version from years ago : We sold bunches : I kept one ? Glad I did :
Havent shot it in a while ?
But :
I can hit a white ( 9 inch ) paper plate any where from 50to 100 yards off hand :
Good enough for me !!!
Dont expect much more ::: Good Enough for Me !!!!!
Thanks !!!
I Grew Old Too Fast (And Smart Too damn Slow !!!) !!!
Agree. I will have to get serious about it and see if it shoots a little better.
Sam, Remington 788 has rear locking lugs.. Likely one of the most underrated and ACCURATE rifles ever made.. l think Remington made 788s but one way.. Cheap and Ugly
It was designed to operate reliable under most extreme conditions and be easy for anyone to maintain.
IMHO, there is none better. Over 50 million made speaks for itself.
Back when I was really into shooting AK's I was able to get a 2 inch 100yd group out of 1 of my home built Romanian G AK's using Golden Tiger. That AK is a little tighter than some of my other ones.
1000rds:
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500rds:
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That is a great idea!
I would think so. I have one on my Mosin Nagant M44.
"A donut in a donut," if you replace the front sight post as well as the rear. It is very intuitive, quick to aquire, and just works. Very well made, and around $100.
Highly recommend them.
Yep, first thing I do with all my aks except I use XS blade night sites. https://www.xssights.com/Detail.aspx?*=993096&CAT=8273
Except on specific rifles' ammo preference, boattails don't help anything until well beyond the normal 7.62x39 ranges.
I have a couple of 7.62x39 AR's that will give 1.5-2 MOA with handloaded ammo but everything else (except the Hornady SST) is 3 MOA or greater. My Remington 799 gets close to that magical 1 MOA with the SST's if I can manage the atrocious trigger well enough. All that other stuff is just that "stuff" when it comes to accuracy. Sometimes you find an acorn but not often.