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Toot your horn anyone ever actually gotten an 850??

SquidSquid Member Posts: 19 ✭✭
edited April 2019 in General Discussion
I have paid my bills all my life on time, never late.

My FICO score is 844, WTH do you have to do or who do you have to blow to get a 850!

Just curious if anyone have ever actually made that level?
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  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bowled a 230 one time. :)
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,332 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup, my FICO hit 850 once. But then dropped back a few mystery numbers, for unknown reasons. My score runs in the 830-840 range because they say they haven't enough mortgage information about me. Uhhh, I paid off my mortgage (years early) over a decade ago. Am completely debt-free for years, have two credit cards which I pay in full every month the same day I get the bill, and have no other expenses except taxes, insurance, and utilities.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • SW0320SW0320 Member Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My wife?s is 850 mine was 843 now down to 832 for using credit card for business even though it is paid off every month.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,895 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    As far as I know, 847 was my highest score ever. Then again, it's not like I check my credit score monthly or anything.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, honestly, since I retired in 2006 I've never checked my credit score and don't care! If someone needs my credit score before they will accept cash or my personal check; I'll buy elsewhere!

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,446 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Old-Colts wrote:
    Well, honestly, since I retired in 2006 I've never checked my credit score and don't care! If someone needs my credit score before they will accept cash or my personal check; I'll buy elsewhere!

    +1
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,367 ******
    edited November -1
    I don't know. Probably have hit 850. It's been in the high 800's for who knows how long. I can't say I really care.
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,606 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Probably under 800. Haven't checked in a long time, though I think it was listed somewhere on the house purchase documents for some reason.

    It seems like it takes a hit when you don't borrow any money and/or pay things off early.

    Also, I have disputed a charge or two over the years and by not not paying until the issue is resolved the numbers drop.

    I know folks say that it is important, but frankly it is much less important than a good relationship with your banker.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    830ish is as high as I've ever got
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,610 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know what my credit score is and don't give a damn. I hope it's zero. If I ever borrow any money or get a credit card I hope somebody shoots me.
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine has been 850 and stayed there for quite some time. Last time I checked it was in the mid 840s.
  • AlpineAlpine Member Posts: 15,093 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I looked at one time it was 837. Don't care anymore.
    ?The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.?
    Margaret Thatcher

    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
    Mark Twain
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never saw mine over 830.

    Put a hold on my credit as well to keep the fraudsters at bay.

    Is it possible to get over 850? Thought that was top of the crdit list.

    Creditors generally like anything above 700 as credit worthy.

    So yes if you scored a 850 tip of the hat to you...
    "What is truth?'
  • chiefrchiefr Member Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Been in the 840s for a number of years. Not such a big deal unless I want to borrow money.
  • Ditch-RunnerDitch-Runner Member Posts: 24,983 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    its been 4 or 5 years we helped my son get a loan ( read our loan ) for his house my wife and I were scored 840 something I know we were not 850 but close , my wife's was 2 points higher than mine WTH the loan officer told us we had the highest scores he has ever seen come thru his office
    that was the only time I heard the numbers in my life and really the last time it was checked as far as I know
    I know its suppose to help ? but that score and 1.00 will get me a cup of coffee ;)
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,056 ******
    edited November -1
    I'm shooting for a credit score A/K/A "I love being in debt score," of ZERO.

    I owe no one a nickel beyond monthly expenses, and I intend to keep it that way.
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,470 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I bounce around between 804 and 792. I haven't bought anything on credit in 19 years. I just use credit cards and pay them off each month. Haven't paid a dime in interest in 10 years.

    So on the one hand, I should be 850. The only reason I know the score is because it comes with each Discover bill.
    It doesn't matter to me I had my credit frozen last year, I have no plans to borrow money.
  • GilWilson1GilWilson1 Member Posts: 182
    edited November -1
    More important than just that!

    Actually many of you who don't care should, it won't matter as long as it is high but your credit score isn't just about borrowing money.

    We use credit scores to price Automobile insurance, it is also used by life, health and homeowners underwriters and impacts the prices you pay for things other than just borrowing money.

    ;)
  • 11b6r11b6r Member Posts: 16,584 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Chuck Norris is 851.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nunn wrote:
    I'm shooting for a credit score A/K/A "I love being in debt score," of ZERO.

    I owe no one a nickel beyond monthly expenses, and I intend to keep it that way.


    + {-}850
    My score is zero. Took about 9 years to get it there, by paying cash and not owing money.
    And as far as number crushing idiots that use a CR to determine insurance rates and other things, Thats BS.
    All my rates are about as low as given to any of their customers.
    IE... My insurance on my car, truck, RV camper is so low, people with high CR's don't believe them.
    WHY??? In the last 16 years I never had a claim on any of them. No tickets either.
    The insurance company cashes my direct payments like it was a birthday gift every month.

    Ever hear the story Dave Ramsy tells of trying to rent office spaces??
    Was refused because of no CR. So he bought the whole building with cash.
    :D
  • mjrfd99mjrfd99 Member Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    GilWilson1 wrote:
    More important than just that!

    Actually many of you who don't care should, it won't matter as long as it is high but your credit score isn't just about borrowing money.

    We use credit scores to price Automobile insurance, it is also used by life, health and homeowners underwriters and impacts the prices you pay for things other than just borrowing money.

    ;)

    Thanks. Did not know that. :D
    I'll be checking now.
  • GilWilson1GilWilson1 Member Posts: 182
    edited November -1
    babun wrote:
    First of all you are not telling the truth your score is not zero.

    Secondly while you may indeed have a low score and think the rates you pay are based solely on your past claims that isn't true.

    We also base rates on things like your level of education. College degree is worth a few bucks off the rate, our numbers show people with good credit are less risky and people with a higher level of education are less risky so regardless of YOUR rates it isn't BS.

    :)
    nunn wrote:
    I'm shooting for a credit score A/K/A "I love being in debt score," of ZERO.

    I owe no one a nickel beyond monthly expenses, and I intend to keep it that way.


    + {-}850
    My score is zero. Took about 9 years to get it there, by paying cash and not owing money.
    And as far as number crushing idiots that use a CR to determine insurance rates and other things, Thats BS.
    All my rates are about as low as given to any of their customers.
    IE... My insurance on my car, truck, RV camper is so low, people with high CR's don't believe them.
    WHY??? In the last 16 years I never had a claim on any of them. No tickets either.
    The insurance company cashes my direct payments like it was a birthday gift every month.

    Ever hear the story Dave Ramsy tells of trying to rent office spaces??
    Was refused because of no CR. So he bought the whole building with cash.
    :D
  • WearyTravelerWearyTraveler Member Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Old-Colts wrote:
    Well, honestly, since I retired in 2006 I've never checked my credit score and don't care! If someone needs my credit score before they will accept cash or my personal check; I'll buy elsewhere!
    I agree. However, I think I recall hearing that insurance rates and some other "non loan" costs were also affected by a credit score.

    Either way though, if the score is in the higher range, a couple points here and there should be irrelevant.
    ”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
    - GEORGE ORWELL -
  • Old-ColtsOld-Colts Member Posts: 22,697 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Old-Colts wrote:
    Well, honestly, since I retired in 2006 I've never checked my credit score and don't care! If someone needs my credit score before they will accept cash or my personal check; I'll buy elsewhere!
    I agree. However, I think I recall hearing that insurance rates and some other "non loan" costs were also affected by a credit score.

    Either way though, if the score is in the higher range, a couple points here and there should be irrelevant.
    Impact on insurance rates might be an issue for anyone that continuously shops around or changes providers. However, we don't, we stay with companies that have proven themselves and we are very happy with our rates; they have actually gone down in some cases even though we are getting OLD! :lol:

    If you can't feel the music; it's only pink noise!

  • gruntled2gruntled2 Member Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There are different credit ranges. Some go as high as 900. I get mine each month from the credit cards I use & they range from just over 800 to quite a bit higher. I can't get much higher since the credit cards are the only credit I use.
  • mnrivrat48mnrivrat48 Member Posts: 1,707 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Spent 2 hours looking through the manual and turning my computer all directions and still haven't found my darn horn button !

    Guess I have to say no .
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    15 years ago we bought a lakeside place and paid 1/2 december and 2nd half 2 weeks later in january for tax purposes....my credit score went from 825 to 815....??????? and have had no debt for 20 years so i really dont care about their BS score which many have found out they had inaccurate data to figure.......
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,969 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's all BS. If "they" knew how much some folks have buried in the backyard, there would need to be some 899's.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mobuck wrote:
    It's all BS. If "they" knew how much some folks have buried in the backyard, there would need to be some 899's.

    +899

    Total BS
    If you get enuff sheeople to believe something , it must be "true".
    There a a few different "credit" departments.
    Equifax has many {like me} listed at zero.
    Another may have a start number of 300.
    Another may say NO history.
    If you want pull up ALL the reports. You will see all different numbers.
    Ain't that strange???? Same person, same life style, same payments.
    But different ratings!!!!

    Years ago, My wife went for a lapband operation. Now she worked in the hospital that would do the surgery.
    The financial department ran her income. credit rating, employment history.
    Came up with a number of about $14,000.
    The two doctors {she knew them} told her to come in with $8,000 cash and forget about
    the rest.
    It sure was a good thing she had a "GOOD CREDIT RATING". ;););)

    I refuse to pray at the alter of Fico.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,606 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Younger folks should pay attention, I guess.

    Know a young man who saved close to $ 100,000.00 for the purchase of a house.

    Wanted to buy one that listed for around $ 250,000.00.

    The story I heard was that no bank would loan him the additional $ 170,000.00 because he had no credit history.

    Lesson? Live within your means, borrow nothing, pay with cash, save so you can put 40% down on a house in order to begin growing equity, and get slapped down by the system.

    It is what it is, which is why I still believe a good relationship with your banker is better than a pat on the head from Equifax.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,470 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I listen to Dave Ramsey a lot and I agree with most of what he says. He says that unless you have a million in assets you can't afford a new car and you need to buy a good used car. And he crunches the numbers on how much money you will spend, if you buy a new car every 3 years. It is phenomenal how much money a person loses, over several decades, if he buys a new car every 3 years. Even worse than that is a lease, Dave just despises a lease.

    And Dave has a credit score of O. He says that you don't need a credit score.
    And he says that the only way to get a good credit score is to pay a fortune to banks or Discover, in interest. Dave particularly hates credit cards and he does not use them. He says that a person shopping with a credit card will, day in and day out, spend a lot more than the person paying cash.

    Well I have to differ with Dave on this one. Now, I haven't bought anything on credit since I bought a new pickup in 1995.
    But I have a credit score of 804. I use 2 credit cards and pay them off each month. I haven't paid a dime in interest in the past 8 years.
    Also I don't like to go shopping. About the only "shopping" I do is at the grocery store, and I buy what I want and pay with the Discover and leave, I usually am in a grocery store for about 11 minutes, no impulse buying for me.

    I don't plan on buying anything on credit again, but, I am going to take a tour of the continent later this year with my girlfriend, and might rent a car for that. In that case the credit card would come in handy, even Dave talks about how difficult it is to rent a car if you don't have a credit card.
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,969 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Before I totally ditched the "borrowed money" concept, I went to a loan institution(aptly named as one would have to be crazy to borrow there) and checked out borrowing $10K for a vehicle upgrade. The loan officer asked about a credit card balance of $5K that was lowering my credit score significantly. I told her it was one of the promo low interest things and that I had the use of that money for 15 months for 3% and if the bank would loan me the $5K for 3% and the $10K for 5%, we had a deal. Her face got red and she said that was far below what they could loan me anything and I left.
  • babunbabun Member Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mobuck wrote:
    Before I totally ditched the "borrowed money" concept, I went to a loan institution(aptly named as one would have to be crazy to borrow there) and checked out borrowing $10K for a vehicle upgrade. The loan officer asked about a credit card balance of $5K that was lowering my credit score significantly. I told her it was one of the promo low interest things and that I had the use of that money for 15 months for 3% and if the bank would loan me the $5K for 3% and the $10K for 5%, we had a deal. Her face got red and she said that was far below what they could loan me anything and I left.

    I had an uncle {RIP}, that was a loan shark in NYC. He charged 10% vig to people that couldn't get loans from banks.
    10% and they sent HIM to jail for 5 years!!!
  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have no debt beyond month to month living expenses, no loans, mortgage, car payment, etc. I do use credit cards regularly for routine purchases but they are always paid off when the bill comes...always. One of my credit unions pulls my FICO score periodically (seems like quarterly) and posts it on my account page online. The score varies between the mid 840s and 850. I don't know what makes the score vary but I don't worry about it; it's just always there for me to see when I log in. I placed a credit freeze on my accounts several years ago and I don't plann on lifting them any time soon.
  • austin20austin20 Member Posts: 35,520 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    mnrivrat48 wrote:
    Spent 2 hours looking through the manual and turning my computer all directions and still haven't found my darn horn button !

    Guess I have to say no .
    :lol:
  • allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,470 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There you go, reload 999. Your situation is about identical to mine. You have no mortgage, no loans, no car loan. You use credit cards and pay off every month. And, like me, you froze your credit. I did that a couple years ago when Equifax had the massive data breach. I figured I might as well freeze it because I don't plan to use it.

    And you are getting a credit score of 845. Mine is 804 tops and sometimes down to 795. Why the difference, I wonder?
    I wouldn't know, or care about it but I get the score every month with the Discover bill.
  • droptopdroptop Member Posts: 8,363 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remember mine being 860.

    Got it by using my Black A.E. card and qualifying for their special client bonus of 10 extra points if their card was used to charge over $5,000 dollars a month? , maybe more, for three consecutive month

    That was over 20 years ago, or so I believe. Could have been 30 points?

    It's all a con anyway, the "black card" had a "sign up fee" of $10,000 and lots of benefits but being retired I've found none of them worthwhile. Where I live you get "Money for nothing and chicks are Free". As it should be. :D
    https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/points-miles/american-express-black-card

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  • reload999reload999 Member Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There you go, reload 999. Your situation is about identical to mine. You have no mortgage, no loans, no car loan. You use credit cards and pay off every month. And, like me, you froze your credit. I did that a couple years ago when Equifax had the massive data breach. I figured I might as well freeze it because I don't plan to use it.

    And you are getting a credit score of 845. Mine is 804 tops and sometimes down to 795. Why the difference, I wonder?
    I wouldn't know, or care about it but I get the score every month with the Discover bill.

    I don't know either, Allen. I've given up on trying to understand their system. I noticed it dropped a bit after I paid off my mortgage a few years ago, but it crept back up. I do have several active credit cards that I rotate into use occasionally, perhaps that helps? I'd like to get rid of some of them but I understand that canceling would hurt the score so I just keep them. I guess it's good to know the score is high, but unless you need to get credit it matters little. ...good in case of an extreme emergency, I suppose.
  • mogley98mogley98 Member Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nope by keeping a crappy score I avoid anyone trying to steal my identity :)
    Why don't we go to school and work on the weekends and take the week off!
  • BoltactionManBoltactionMan Member Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've been lending money to people for 30 years and have never seen an 850. Highest I've seen is in the 820's. The formula used for the lender's is different than the one's posted on credit cards. The lowest I have seen was in the high 300's.

    Weird things these numbers, they are actually supposed to measure responsibility not a payment history. Hence their use for insurance rates, "random" checks at airports, etc.

    The post about the young man with the large down payment is probably very true. Without a score, you don't exist in the FNMA underwriting system, although it is possible to build an alternative credit history. Insurance payments, utility bills, etc.

    KC
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