Possible Loop Hole for Stolen Guns?

thesupermonkey

A lot of my friends and fellow workers have had a firearm stolen from them at some point and it got me thinking about how illegally obtained firearms change hands, though not in person to person. For example a criminal steals a gun, and then auctions it on GB. Is the criminal required to send a copy of some form of identification to the receiving FFL Dealer? If not, wouldn't this provide a means for circulating stolen firearms?

bfair

I think it would be nice to have a section here where stolen guns w/ser# could be listed. I'm sure there are a lot of us here that have had guns stolen.I have quite a few that were purchased long before we had all these gun laws. There was never a record of ser# recorded.[This message has been edited by bfair (edited 09-17-2001).]

M.Opaliski

Technically, yes they could be sold via this site. As could any illegal object in the possession of a criminal be sold in many legal markets ... it is near unpreventable.A recieving dealer could request or mandate some form of proof, however, there is no way to validate the legitimacy of ownership unless each firearm was checked using a stolen firearms data base and even then not all stolen firearms are reported stolen.Once the firearm is recieved by the FFL it is entered into a boundbook which puts it, for lack of a better term "on the books". If it were found at a later date to be stolen it could be traced back to the source that sent it to the FFL, provided the information given by the source was legitimate, which it would more than likely be not, knowing beforehand that it was a stolen firearm being shipped.It boils down to the fact that in every instance where humans are involved in trade and or transfer of property ... corruption will find a way to enter the mix.

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burn1bob

this and private sales (gun shows, flea markets, etc.) were targets of the anti's. i used the past tense intentionally. the 'watchword' or the 'unofficial' law of the land is now to arm yourself. just look at the auctions, dealers, and gun shows. sales are skyrocketing. we have been attacked and i think these gun control issues are now way off the back burner along with some other good things, imho.>bob

badboybob

www.isthisgunstolen.com

nunn

I have taken a few burglary and theft reports where guns were stolen, over the past quarter century. Finding gun owners who have their serial numbers recorded is a RARITY. Often, the owner doesn't even know what brand the gun was.Without the serial number, or an owner-applied number, there will be no entry into the NCIC and state computers. That gun can be sold with impunity now. If the numbers are run by a police officer, it will show clear, even though it is in fact stolen.As a dealer, I have to record the name, ID and address of any person from whom I receive a gun. I highly recommend the same to any individual who buys a used gun. Get a bill of sale with the seller's name and address. Or copy that information from the seller's driver license. If he will not comply, DO NOT BUY.

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