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What AR-10 would you pick?
mjbmxz
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There are 4 brands I'm looking at. DPMS, Rock River Arms, Remington R-25 (DPMS makes them I think?) and Armalite. Are any of these better than the other, or they all pretty reliable and well made? Thanks for the input. Matt
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There are 3 brands I'm looking at. DPMS, Rock River Arms, and Armalite. Are any of these better than the other, or they all pretty reliable and well made? Thanks for the input. Matt
I like DMPS, but perfer Rock River. I just like thier brand better.
Go with the original company.
You realize there is no original company to go with? Armalite is name and nothing else.
What's wrong with Bushmaster?
They no longer make AR-10s.
If you want a 16" carbine I'd advise Rock river or Armalite with a mid length gas system.
If you want a 24" bull barreled precision rifle I'd recomend a DPMS, rock river, or Armalite.
No one offers a standard rifle with the ideal gas system length for .308win direct impingement guns. by Ideal I mean 10"-12" on a carbine. 14+" on a rifle.
So the mid length gas system carbine is as close As I know of to Ideal. If any one makes a rifle with an 18" bdl with a rifle length 12" gas system, that would be better.
My Bushmaster breaks bolts, but not the lugs. It breaks the rear section constantly. Three bolts in <3k rounds. Rifle is accurate, and beautiful, but it gets annoying. Bushmaster always sends a new one, but it is like getting a starter at ghettozone, how many do you have to go through to get a good one [xx(]
Lance
Everytime I see an Armalite AR10 on the range, it's jamming. Seen a couple DPMS 308's on the range and they all seem to work.
quote:Originally posted by armilite1015
Go with the original company.
You realize there is no original company to go with? Armalite is name and nothing else.
+1 ... I think Eagle Arms owns the name now.
I had a Stoner SR25 years ago ... like another poster, too many dead presidents and I couldn't refuse ... kinda wish I had.
Had a Armalite AR10 8-9 years ago(the design that takes the modified M14 mags) Fit and finish was horrible ... could never get it to shoot under 2" at 100, even with hand loads.
Bought a DPMS LR308 with the 24" stainless fluted barrel and couldn't be happier ... sub-moa right out of the box with 168 Sierras. I originally bought it because it takes the same mags as the Stoner and I still had 8 mags left over. Altough the mags for the RRA are cheap, the gun is more expensive to start with.
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
Also should of asked if there are any other AR-10's out there that you a guy can use for hunting/shooting or if you have an AR-10 that you hunt with yourself. Matt
Matt,
You would want to check your state's DNR rules for Deer Hunting. Some states don't allow semi-autos. If they do make sure you check the magazine capacity rules too and get at least 1 or 2 mags in that capacity.
AR-10 should be plenty accurate for deer.
Dan
Also should of asked if there are any other AR-10's out there that you a guy can use for hunting/shooting or if you have an AR-10 that you hunt with yourself. Matt
I have the DPMS lower already and I plan on building a .243 out of mine. It is a down the road project, maybe next year. I already have enough .308 rifles and I like the .243 round.
One big down side to the AR-10 platform is going to be the weight. My Savage 110 in .243 cant be much over 6libs and with the AR-10 and heavy barrels and accessories it will easily break over 10lbs. I love my target M1A and it is great shooter but it is heavy enough it would not be fun to pack all day long if hiking. Just something to think about.
It shoots better then some factory bolt action rifles, but I keep wondering when the bolt stop is going to break. Nothing has broke to date and its ate about 1,200 rounds.
I wish someone made a pig tail gas tube or a gas block that vents off some gas pressure.
Also should of asked if there are any other AR-10's out there that you a guy can use for hunting/shooting or if you have an AR-10 that you hunt with yourself. Matt
Check this out, it has a rifle length gas system, 18" barrel. chmabered in .338fed., You can get one similar chambered in .308win too.
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=50
There are many different styles of 30 cal battle rifles so far I am really pleased with the FAL and I am considering a change to a PTR
thay are half the money of an armilite and a much better rifle IMO
NO AR type rifles of any kind in any brand. I don't like them, they are ugly, uncomfortable and antique. The whole design should have been scraped back when the troops first pointed out their many faults during Vietnam. The things I don't like about them are...the inconvenient charging handle, The buffer that requires a tube. The gas system, the carry handle with integral sights and how difficult they are to clean.
There are many different styles of 30 cal battle rifles so far I am really pleased with the FAL and I am considering a change to a PTR
thay are half the money of an armilite and a much better rifle IMO
I personally like the ergonomics of this rifle type. My lwrc has taken care of the gas issue, and has a flat-top to boot, so those two arguments go away. Cleaning a ar is simple imho, I do not actually see how it could be simplified anymore than what it is. I am not trying to argue, but ergonomics is a matter of choice to the shooter, and with the other things you pointed out becoming a non-issue, what is left to call "bad"?
Ill tell you a story.
My friend and I have hunted birds together for over 20 years neither of us were into military type rifles ( I carried an AR daily in the service but he never joined) like lots of folks, the thought of not being able to buy a semi-auto in the future made us both decide to buy one. He bought a RRA AR m-4 556 I bought a Sig 556. I paid 200 more for my rifle than he did.
I went over to his property to shoot these guns and his adult son was there. he was very excited to shoot his dads rifle. I didn't say much about the difference in the guns before he did.
SO the RRA rifle was stove piping, failing to eject, misfiring. when my friend or his son fired it. they started on factory reloads, then shifted to PMC ammo as the rifle continued it's problems. I took his rifle down and went thru everything it was all the way it should be. SO no noticeable reason for the issues.
Meanwhile I fired PMC without a hitch, I went through 80 rds. His son noticed I wasn't having any problems. he wanted to try the Sig and noticed right away that the stock folded out of the way, the bolt handle was easy. the mag release was ambidextrous (as is the safety) and it even fired the reloads without a problem (1 0r 2 misfires)...this was a guy who nothing about these guns. He stared raving about the SIG to the point where his dad put his gun up in disgust (he hasn't fired it since)
I notice the Sig has at least as many features as a 6920 more like a 6940 and it is less money than either of them.
SO that is my choice, for now, but I am happy there are alternatives to the AR type rifles.
I took it out and shot it a few times, the last time I even took my press and scales out to the range and clamped it to the table in the clubhouse so I could reload on the spot. When it still wouldn't group I didn't even mess around with the warranty ... I took it to a gun-show, asking a little more than I had in it(expecting to haggle) and sold it to a guy that didn't want to wait and order one ... he was as excited as I was when I ordered it and didn't care when I told him about my 2"+ groups ... I didn't go into any detail but he didn't ask for more info either.
I loaded Sierra 168 HPBT Match Mollys for my SR25, M1A, HK SR9T and Styer SSG and consistently shot sub-moa with all of them for a half of what the 168 Federal Match cost and a fraction of what Black Hills Moly Match goes for ... but I couldn't get that Armalite to shoot for crap.
? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.