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What would you rather have/be

GotteskriegerGotteskrieger Member Posts: 3,170 ✭✭
edited June 2008 in General Discussion
What would you rather have? a ton of money and live poor or live high on the hog but no savings? I hear over and over "you can't take it with you" These people have all the toys,they are making the payments , enjoying life but no savings.

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  • Winston BodeWinston Bode Member Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like to have things now as opposed to dying with a ton of money in the bank. I got four wheelers, motorcycles, jet ski, camper, four wheel drive pick-up. I got a good deer lease that I get to hunt each year and a good wife and kids. I've got guns, several, and generally time to shoot them. I wouldn't have it any other way.

    Bode

    P.S. I also live in the country and have two horses, three dogs, three cats and two rats, (my daughter's).
  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I'm saving my toys.
  • Jacob2008Jacob2008 Member Posts: 19,528 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If there is something I want I save up until I have the money. No, I dont want to be rich. I want to be happy.
    (plus, i can take the stuff, and sell it if i need money) [:D][:D]
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    Somewhere in between. I will have money in the bank, yet I will indulge myself when I choose to. If I want a toy, or need something essential, I write a check for it. Ain't going hat-in-hand to some banker and ask pretty-please can I borrow some of your money. It's bad enough that I have a mortgage, but I got that before I learned how to live well within my means and pay cash for everything.

    Travis seems to have learned the lesson without being taught it, and at a young age. He has been turned down for rental houses because he had no credit rating, when he could have written a check and bought the house outright. The boy will be rich one day.
  • jimdeerejimdeere Member, Moderator Posts: 26,288 ******
    edited November -1
    Neither. I would rather have time.
    Ok, that wasn't one of the options. But I've got my retirement $ in good shape and have all the goodies I need. I just need the time to enjoy them.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You can't take it with you, but you can pass it on to your children.

    I like having a nice savings account
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    When the man said "you can't take it with you," he meant BOTH the money and the toys. I've never seen a hearse with a trailer hitch. All we leave behind that remains ours is memories in the hearts of our loved ones, friends, and neighbors.

    To answer your question, hoarding money at the expense of happiness is not wise. Although having no savings is imprudent. And going into debt to have toys is submitting to slavery.
  • mateomasfeomateomasfeo Member Posts: 27,143
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    You can't take it with you, but you can pass it on to your children.

    I like having a nice savings account


    Bingo!
  • Sig220_Ruger77Sig220_Ruger77 Member Posts: 12,754 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Somewhere in between. I will have money in the bank, yet I will indulge myself when I choose to. If I want a toy, or need something essential, I write a check for it. Ain't going hat-in-hand to some banker and ask pretty-please can I borrow some of your money. It's bad enough that I have a mortgage, but I got that before I learned how to live well within my means and pay cash for everything.

    Travis seems to have learned the lesson without being taught it, and at a young age. He has been turned down for rental houses because he had no credit rating, when he could have written a check and bought the house outright. The boy will be rich one day.

    Same here. I have a small amount of extra money saved up in case of a rainy day or if something were to happen, yet I do have some nice toys. Also, I have a few toys that I know I could sell quickly and for a decent amount of money if I needed it tomorrow.

    Jon
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,245 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    I like to save my money. I buy $500.00 pickups. I grew up scrounging and now it's just a way of life for me. In fact it is now a game to me to take a cast off something, that somebody with less means than me threw away, and make it work for me.

    As far as toys, toys mean different things to different people. Quads, boats, jet skis.....no interest in any of them, maybe a quad someday if it comes for the right price.

    I'm just humble, I was raised that way.

    Poor is a frame of mind.
  • bobskibobski Member Posts: 17,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    old america was the first choice.
    second choice is current new america...and look where its leading the nation....[:0][;)]
    Retired Naval Aviation
    Former Member U.S. Navy Shooting Team
    Former NSSA All American
    Navy Distinguished Pistol Shot
    MO, CT, VA.
  • savage170savage170 Member Posts: 37,572 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Always try to keep 2-3 monthes pay saved for a rainy day The rest I'm going to enjoy. If I follow family History I'll get a heart attack a month after I retire. Both grandfathers and my Dad never seen a s.s. check.
  • rustyhrustyh Member Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice savings account = peace of mind
    That is priceless.
  • KodiakkKodiakk Member Posts: 5,582
    edited November -1
    I'd rather live conservative while I'm younger and guarentee things like paid house, car, ect with money to pay in full for the things that need updating such a new car when needed. Then after I set up my foundation then I'll splurge since I'll have quite a bit of free money. Think about all the interest one saves when they live in that manner instead of putting everything on a loan.
  • goldeneagle76goldeneagle76 Member Posts: 4,359
    edited November -1
    I'm somewhere in between. My wife and I are still young, we have a savings account, 401K, etc for the future. But at the same time, I use the money that we get unexpectedly for "fun things" like guns, dinners out, etc. My wife is the saver and I am the spender.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,539 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by nunn
    Somewhere in between. I will have money in the bank, yet I will indulge myself when I choose to. If I want a toy, or need something essential, I write a check for it. Ain't going hat-in-hand to some banker and ask pretty-please can I borrow some of your money. It's bad enough that I have a mortgage, but I got that before I learned how to live well within my means and pay cash for everything.

    Travis seems to have learned the lesson without being taught it, and at a young age. He has been turned down for rental houses because he had no credit rating, when he could have written a check and bought the house outright. The boy will be rich one day.

    Very rare today to see young folk with economic sense. He was paying attention. One thing I have learned is that you make your money on the purchase, not the sale of the item. My folks were the same way. If Dad didn't have the money to buy something outright, he did without until he did have the cash. That common sense was quickly put into use when I got older.
  • nunnnunn Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 36,085 ******
    edited November -1
    I wish I had learned that lesson 30 years ago.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I invest in things I can play with and then sell if I want to. I don't save in banks or 401k's or IRA's. Paper trail and hassle if I die is too much.

    I've never believed money good for anything except wiping your *. It's only the stuff money can get for you that's important.

    Of course, I would like to have a ton of money available too to get more stuff![;)]
  • Spc FergusonSpc Ferguson Member Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    dont really matter to me as long as my family girlfriend and dogs are taken care of, thats all that really matters to me.
  • dtknowlesdtknowles Member Posts: 810 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Balance, need to find what works for you. We used to skrimp and save a lot more but my wife has had Type I diabedes for more than 40 years and I will likely (Knock Wood) out live her. She mentioned that saving all that money for retirement might not ever benefit her. I agreed and we now spend a little more to enjoy some things we might have missed before.

    Balance

    Saving side:
    We have a 401K but I don't contribute the max. I could.
    We have few months pay in the bank incase of .... whatever
    We have cash in the safe incase of a Hurricane or Flood.

    Spending side:
    We go out to eat someplace nice about once a week when we are at home
    We go see movies we want
    Just got her a new (used) vehicle, paid cash
    We go on vacation (inside the US) three or four weeks a year.
    I shoot almost all I want almost every weekend.
    I get maybe one or two new guns a year


    We are still careful to get good value when we spend, mostly sometimes to do or get something really nice you have to pay the going rate. Most purchases we are careful, like getting her a used car, low mileage, under book value, not new car depreciation. I reload, I could spend on factory ammo but why? I would rather be reloading than watching TV or reading and posting here. I do spend a little more on .22 ammo, I like the accuracy and reliability of Target Match .22 ammo but I am not buying Eley, just good Federal, Agulia or Wolf.

    I am not beyond picking stuff out of the trash. The computer I use in my shop is a road side salvage job. Runs fine and does the job, I pick up ammo and brass that people leave where I shoot. I hate to see things go to waste, the waste in this country is a blemish on our society. I dig lead out of the berms too. I take our aluminum cans to the scrap dealer because they stopped curb side recycling.

    I think that you can spend and enjoy and save and not waste. Balance, I don't think you see much about balance in Christian Doctrine, some but not much and you don't hear it from the pulpit. Eastern religions it is a strong message along with respect for elders.
  • mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
    quote:Originally posted by Rack Ops
    You can't take it with you, but you can pass it on to your children.

    I like having a nice savings account


    Bingo!




    A FICA (sp?) insured Savings account[:p]
  • chappsynychappsyny Member Posts: 3,381 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    save early in life, spend later in life.

    Always have a few months worth of money for emergencies.
  • NEIAPredatorNEIAPredator Member Posts: 1,443
    edited November -1
    I have seen alot of people save like heck their whole life and banking on that retirement day. Then they think their gonna go and spend there money on the things they never did when they were working 9 to 5 for 35 or 40 years. Then before they get a chance to retire, BOOM heart attack, or cancer or something. They never got the chance to enjoy it. I keep a little savings for emergency and things of that sort. Otherwise I like to spend it and have fun with my Wife and kids or my freinds while I stil can. You never know when your gonna go. So have some fun now.
  • JamesRKJamesRK Member Posts: 25,670 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I know you can't take it with you, but I'd like to have enough to get there.

    I've got enough put back to bury me and maybe keep the wife from starving. That's about all.
    The road to hell is paved with COMPROMISE.
  • dtknowlesdtknowles Member Posts: 810 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am glad I don't have to choose between fun now and comfortable retirement. I think I can have both if I spend wisely.

    I think I have all the bases covered.

    Life insurance on me for the Wife and Kids
    401K and pension.

    Still enough left over to live pretty good.

    If the market or country go off the deep end or I die there will be a few things I will have wished I had done but I am slowly working on them.
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Little of both ...
    Our oldest car is 4years old and the only debt we have is the mortgage, and I have enough in the bank that if a toy comes along I want I can buy it.

    PA140012.jpg

    I sold off 29 firearms to pay for this toy with no regrets ... I don't care what anyone says, the fewer payment you have to make, the less stressful life is [;)]
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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