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So the Shooter in the Brookfield WI. Shootings

armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
edited October 2012 in General Discussion
this past weekend purchased his .40 cal handgun on *. Supposedly
purchased the gun over the internet with no FFL involved. So why isn't the seller getting in trouble over this??? This was a sale between 2 private individuals and the shooter bought the gun knowing he had a restraining order against him. The big deal being made is the shooter bought the gun with no background check.

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  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.



    When all is said and done, * will be made out to be the bigger criminal than the shooter himself.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.



    Very true but how does he buy it over the internet with no FFL involved??
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.



    Very true but how does he buy it over the internet with no FFL involved??



    Face to face sale. I highly doubt the seller knew anything about the restraining order, unless he was informed about it, and foolishly sold it to the shooter anyway.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • armilitearmilite Member Posts: 35,490 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.



    Very true but how does he buy it over the internet with no FFL involved??



    Face to face sale. I highly doubt the seller knew anything about the restraining order, unless he was informed about it, and foolishly sold it to the shooter anyway.




    It was said that it was an internet sale no mention of face to face and nothing stated the the gun was purchased by a seller within the state. I'm thinking that some key information was left out on purpose to make * look bad.
  • 35 Whelen35 Whelen Member Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Regardless of how the deal went down, * will be made out as the scapegoat in it all.
    An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.
  • grumpygygrumpygy Member Posts: 48,464 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    * is set up by state so it would be real easy to Buy Face to Face and not need a FFL or Background Check.

    So who can say here goes all Private sales. And end of Face to face sales.
  • BeeramidBeeramid Member Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    quote:Originally posted by Beeramid
    He could of bought it from Willie B. Johnson down in the projects without a background check as well. All this does is show us what we already know, criminals disregard the law.



    Very true but how does he buy it over the internet with no FFL involved??



    Face to face sale. I highly doubt the seller knew anything about the restraining order, unless he was informed about it, and foolishly sold it to the shooter anyway.




    It was said that it was an internet sale no mention of face to face and nothing stated the the gun was purchased by a seller within the state. I'm thinking that some key information was left out on purpose to make * look bad.


    Keep in mind, we're talking about the media. I'll bet that they have spun "internet sale" into meaning he saw the listing online, and then met the guy and bought the pistol, therefore its an "internet sale".

    35WhelenClassic is probably correct, they will blame *, and go after that made up gunshow loophole.
  • Waco WaltzWaco Waltz Member Posts: 10,836 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    this past weekend purchased his .40 cal handgun on *. Supposedly
    purchased the gun over the internet with no FFL involved. So why isn't the seller getting in trouble over this??? This was a sale between 2 private individuals and the shooter bought the gun knowing he had a restraining order against him. The big deal being made is the shooter bought the gun with no background check.


    OK now I find it fishy this happened in Paul Ryans State.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He should be called a killer, not a shooter. Shooters are folks that take firearms out to legally shoot for target practice and sport. Calling him a shooter helps the left co-op a legitimate term that has described folks that participate in shooting sports. It is not accidental but rather intentional that the left has has co-opted this term.
  • dcs shootersdcs shooters Member Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by 35WhelenClassic
    Regardless of how the deal went down, * will be made out as the scapegoat in it all.


    That's the way the "TALKING HEADS" do it all the damn time [xx(]
    They will never tell the way it all is [B)]
    Like this [^]

    Today the Associated Press reported that Radcliffe Haughton purchased a handgun without a background check from a private seller, and obtained the weapon two days after becoming subject to a restraining order that required him to turn any firearms he owned into police.
  • rob223rob223 Member Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There's always someone else to blame. It's always someone else's fault for not knowing someone's gremlins.
  • TempestTempest Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Waco Waltz
    quote:Originally posted by armilite
    this past weekend purchased his .40 cal handgun on *. Supposedly
    purchased the gun over the internet with no FFL involved. So why isn't the seller getting in trouble over this??? This was a sale between 2 private individuals and the shooter bought the gun knowing he had a restraining order against him. The big deal being made is the shooter bought the gun with no background check.


    OK now I find it fishy this happened in Paul Ryans State.


    I would agree.

    Also, Brookfield is a really nice area. My old house was just a mile or so from there before I moved.
  • kimberkidkimberkid Member Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by grumpygy
    * is set up by state so it would be real easy to Buy Face to Face and not need a FFL or Background Check.

    So who can say here goes all Private sales. And end of Face to face sales.

    Wouldn't even have to be face to face as long as in the same state ... Seller could even have shipped it to him in the same state without an ffl legally.
    If you really desire something, you'll find a way ?
    ? otherwise, you'll find an excuse.
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