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Taliban willing to hand over Osama with conditions

Josey1Josey1 Member Posts: 9,598 ✭✭
edited September 2001 in General Discussion
Taliban willing to hand over Osama with conditions Mubashir Zaidi and Agencies (Islamabad/Kabul, September 18)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/180901/detfro01.asp Quoting Russian ITAR-Tass sources, the BBC said on Tuesday that the Taliban have asked for three conditions for the release of Osama bin Laden. The first is that his trial be held in an Islamic country. The second is that sanctions against Afghanistan be waived off. Finally, they want the stoppage of arms to the anti-Taliban northern alliance. The Afghan official radio reported that a final decision on Osama has been left to the Ulema. The Taliban had told an official Pakistani delegation on Monday that they are willing to hand over the Saudi-born terrorist to Islamabad, but Pakistan is still trying to remove the condition attached to his extradition -- trial in an Islamic country. A Pakistani delegation led by the ISI's director, General Mehmood Ahmed, and including the Foreign Office's Afghan desk director, Aziz Khan, held a three-hour meeting with the Taliban supreme leader, Mullah Muhammad Omar, in Kandahar. Senior Pakistani government sources say the Taliban had expressed a willingness to hand over Bin Laden. However, they insisted Bin Laden would have to be tried in an Islamic country. Three countries were named: Pakistan, the UAE or Saudi Arabia. These are the only countries to recognize the Taliban regime. The Pakistanis insist that the Taliban hand over Bin Laden directly to the US. In return, Islamabad will assure the Saudi-born terrorist's trial will be "held in public." In Washington on Monday, President Bush spelt out the US position by saying he wanted Bin Laden brought to the US "dead or alive." The delegation earlier met the Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil. The talks will now go to a second day. The Pakistani delegation will participate in a meeting of the Taliban's Supreme Council, scheduled to be held in Kabul. The Council will make the final decision on Bin Laden's fate. The Pakistani team warned the Taliban that if they failed to hand over Bin Laden they would face US military strikes. Afterwards, Taliban spokesman Abdul Hai Mutmain said he saw a 60 per cent chance the situation would return to normal. Trying Bin Laden in an Islamic court was proposed by the Taliban in 1994. It has also been floated repeatedly by Pervez Musharraf. Today, few nations would like to host bin Laden for fear of US military action. These developments were one reason Musharraf cancelled a TV address to the nation scheduled for Monday. His coming trip to China had been cancelled at Beijing's request. China announced it was sealing its borders with Afghanistan, India and Pakistan. Pakistan on Monday closed its Afghan border. The Taliban moved an estimated 20,000 troops near the border with Pakistan and deployed Scud missiles. Final decision rests with Ulema Meanwhile, Taliban said chief Mullah Mohammad Omar said a meeting of Islamic leaders from around the country scheduled here Tuesday would make a "decision" on the crisis over Osama bin Laden, the official radio reported. State-run Radio Shariat said Omar told visiting Pakistani officials on Monday that a meeting of ulema (Islamic scholars) from every province had been convened here to issue a fatwa, or learned opinion. "Tomorrow a gathering of ulema from each province will be held in Kabul and they will make a decision about the recent events," the Taliban mouthpiece radio station said in a news bulletin

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  • mudgemudge Member Posts: 4,225 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here we go. Negotiations!Tell the Afghans we can do this the easy way or the hard way and that they won't like the hard way. Turn him over or else and emphasize the OR ELSE!Trial my *. Did the victims of Sept. 11th get to negotiate? Give Bin Laden this option...Do you want to die INSIDE the cave or OUTSIDE the cave?Mudge
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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    As indicated in some of my previous posts, I don't want to see any "innocent" people die. I mean, babies and little kids in Afghanistan really have nothing to do with this. But, again, if we don't strike VERY hard so that these people will think twice before acting then we're just waiting for it to happen again. I just feel like we've been negotiating for years and yet we still keep seeing the same thing over and over. I'm really not sure that a diplomatic and peaceful solution exists.
  • gruntledgruntled Member Posts: 8,218 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Islamic law requires two witnesses to testifyto the act. All of the evidence we have against him would not be admitted.
  • BlueTicBlueTic Member Posts: 4,072
    edited November -1
    So lets say we get Bin Lama - what do all the followers do - yeah you got it - can we all say hostage situations all over the world of US people. Or more terrorism here on our soil. There is always another Bin Loco. The Reaction by our government needs to be swift and harsh. Their need to negotiate means nothing to the 5,000 + souls lost. They should take out the Taliban for even thinking about negotiations.
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bomb the bastards. We did it to Quadaffi, he got the message and has behaved ever since. It's time for the taliban to get the message.
  • RedlegRedleg Member Posts: 417 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Taliban is in no position to demand anything!1) Trial in an islamic country would amount to nothing more than a probationary hearing, ending with the release of this * back into the underworld of terrorism.2) Waiving off sanctions on Afghanistan would lend credibility to the Taliban.3) Stopping the flow of arms to the Northern Alliance would amount to a decisive Taliban victory. They could then go on imprison their own people and treat women like dogs.No....screw the bastards. It's time we make Afghanistan the 51st State.
  • edharoldedharold Member Posts: 465 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    These people have been bombed and straffed all ther lives by the best...er second best. They are not going to give into threats of bombing. If we want them we will need to put troops on the ground, like the soviets did for ten years. I'm not saying we can't do it it will cost a lot more US lives, maybe more that then 5,000 we've lost so far. I'm not saying don't do it. We just have to realize what it will cost, and maybe we won't get Bin Lauden even then, he's very mobile and without help we'll play hell catching him.I'd like to see a clandestine operation to insure we get Bin Lauden and as many of his inner circle as possible, then deal with those who supported him.
    "They that would give up liberty to obtain safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"Benj. Franklin, 1759
  • rg666rg666 Member Posts: 395 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Why has "NOBODY" talked about where Bin Ladens 300M dollars are. Take his money & you take away his main resource. This is one small way to hurt him directly. Is this money in Swiss banks, Saudi banks, where?????? Lets find out & take it. If it's in a European bank then the US can sue him for every penny of it. At least freeze it until our issues with him are settled. I say this in addition to anything else we may do to him & his devils militarily or otherwise. RG[This message has been edited by rg666 (edited 09-18-2001).]
  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bin must die. Nuff said.
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