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Could this be a STING???

PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
edited April 2002 in General Discussion
Below is an email I received today regarding a pistol I have running on GB:i wanted to ask if i won the bid on this weapon would u be able to send it to me even though i don't have a FFL the person that useually gets it for is over seas now i just wanted to know if u would do me that favor and send it if he doesn't get bacc by the time the bid is over could u get bacc at me soon at .............. thanxI deleted the address to maintain confidentually. Any other dealers ever get a request like this?
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  • dheffleydheffley Member Posts: 25,000 ✭
    edited November -1
    Being paranoid, I would send a one word reply. NO!
    Save, research, then buy the best.Join the NRA, NOW!Teach them young, teach them safe, teach them forever, but most of all, teach them to VOTE!
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  • badboybobbadboybob Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He's either stupid and illiterate or an ATF goon trying to get you. Beware!
    PC=BS
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  • Tailgunner1954Tailgunner1954 Member Posts: 7,734 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    With that many errors in spelling etc., it sounds like someone thats to young to have a drivers license, let alone a firearm.I'd second the NO motion
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  • will270winwill270win Member Posts: 4,845
    edited November -1
    That's a straw purchase ain't it? Seriously, I don't know. Is this what a straw purchase is?
    It has become my purpose in life to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable.. will270win@aol.com ~Secret Select Society Of Suave Stylish Smoking Jackets~
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  • boeboeboeboe Member Posts: 3,331
    edited November -1
    I believe a straw purchase is filling out the necessary paperwork and purchasing a firearm when the real buyer is actually someone else.
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  • gunboobgunboob Member Posts: 203 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That sounds like a "no - brainer" to me.That's the kind I'd enjoy answering, cause its so easy.Ok ...Ok...I'd be polite though, after all, you really don't know the reason behind the off-color language and intent. (I'm not gonna list a WHOLE buncha things here, ya'all could do so too.)There's just no reason to be impolite when yer not sure, and thereby brand yourself unnessesairly. Don't burn a bridge.Bob
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  • JBJB Member Posts: 88 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I got a better idea for you Pelican.. I'll let you send it to my FFL guy if you do it for free.. It's a much better deal for you is my guess
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  • njretcopnjretcop Member Posts: 7,975
    edited November -1
    Pelican, I think I know this ATF agent. He sounds like the one who came to my home seven times before they issued my C&R, lol.-Charlie the wary
    It's the stuff dreams are made of AngelNRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for a good laugh. He'd know if he could only read the rules.
    "The 2nd Amendment is about security, not hunting. Long live the gun shows, and reasonable access to FFLs. Join the NRA -- I'm a Life Member."
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  • OLD SF-EROLD SF-ER Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    From the way he spells and "writes like he talks" he could be Scott 5792 - the numb nuts that's been posting crazy stuff and got poofed!
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  • Rafter-SRafter-S Member Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    oops! See boe boe's definition (above) for straw purchase. It is correct. [This message has been edited by Rafter-S (edited 04-05-2002).][This message has been edited by Rafter-S (edited 04-05-2002).]
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  • halsam00halsam00 Member Posts: 79 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    sounds fishy! i wouldn't trust'em
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  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yea, I send an email back stating I would only ship to a FFL holder. I was just wonderin' if any y'all ever had some idiot approach ya like this.I get ofgers in the shop on occassion; "hey man, sell me this without paper work and I'll give ya an extra 20 bucks." I tell 'em to hit the door.Thirty years as an FFL this month. Ain't gonna piss that away for a few dollars not counting the jail time. With my luck they'd put me in the cell with big bubba - and they don't call him big cause he's tall and they don't call him bubba cause he's friendly
    The Almighty Himself Entrusted the Future of All Living Creatures to a Wooden Boat.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"Audemus jura nostra defendere"
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  • Evil ATFEvil ATF Member Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Most of what I sell here are "assault rifles". I'm constantly getting emails from * who want to know if it will accept a retractable stock, can be converted to full auto, etc. etc.I also get a lot of the "no FFL" requests. They're awfully fun to answer! Have fun with the moron.
    Stand And Be Counted
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  • MDSuppliesMDSupplies Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I get these "no FFL requests" I ask for their mailing address and offer to find a dealer in the area who will do the transfer.I have never gotten a reply.
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  • alledanalledan Member Posts: 19,541
    edited November -1
    Pelican- Is this guy from California-no pun
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  • sandman2234sandman2234 Member Posts: 894 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    thirty years in the business???? You sure had me fooled. I didn't think you were that old. Hope you have another 30 good ones. OH, and my answer would be "no".
    Have Gun, will travel
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  • He DogHe Dog Member Posts: 51,593 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Doesn't matter if it is a sting or not, the only answer is NO! You have far too much at stake to risk it for such a silly reason.
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  • competentonecompetentone Member Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My response if anyone asks me to do something illegal:There are a few people in this world I would risk going to jail for....YOU are not one of them.
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  • scott5792scott5792 Member Posts: 300 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    old sfer.I didn't post ANYTHING I didn't put my name on.Find another scapegoat. Cause I'm not him.Why are you not blaming god, he made me from what all you people think. I'm his fault?Scott
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  • RosieRosie Member Posts: 14,525 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well iffen youse fellas ant gonna sel to me the way I want I ant gonna buy no more! There now I bet I just put half of you out of business! Cute little old Rosie (hush Clouder)
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  • skipjackoneskipjackone Member Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Men in black are no laughing matter and their sense of humor was removed at a very early age. Don't even think about it.
    I drink; therefore I am
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  • William81William81 Member Posts: 25,350 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pelican, it does make you wonder doesn't it....

    I used to get many requests from individuals from California for Hi-Cap magazines when I was selling off a large number of them last year.
    They would try all sorts of different tales and woes on why they needed them. I was always real paranoid that someone was trying to set me up. I always sent them a thanks but no thanks reply.
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  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Damn, just when I was a learning how to post good y'all gotta go and change everything up. Kinda like the dang grocery store, just when you know where everything is they rearrange the dang thing.

    Now to worry folks. I done decided i wouldn't sell this clown anything FFL or not. I asked GB for a final value credit and they said I had to go thru this process of advising the potential buyer this that and the other. I told 'em I'd eat the loss cause I don't want to take a chance this fool could come up with an FFL anyway.

    Yea Sandman, started April '72. Been a long hard pull. You always hear folks say "yea it was rough but I wouldn't change a thing". BS!!, I'd change a lot. Like that older actress said (I can't remember which one) when some interviewer asked her if she would like to be 18 again. She replied "Only if I could take my 50+ year old brain with me". Makes a lot of sense to me. Keep the shiny side up my friend.

    The Almighty Himself Entrusted the Future of All Living Creatures to a Wooden Boat.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"Audemus jura nostra defendere"
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  • seb1999seb1999 Member Posts: 343 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I loved the answer to "send the $, I'll hold your purchase until your FFL returns". :) his response will be really- the check is in the mail and I wont........

    He is probably the same guy that asks you to hold his wallet while he goes to the john!!!!!!

    It is a shame that stupidity is not painful!

    remember: Experience is the direct result of poor judgement
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  • elmos608elmos608 Member Posts: 124 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have a question. What kind of gun is this person trying to buy?
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  • beachmaster73beachmaster73 Member Posts: 3,011 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Pelican......I'd get his money and then send it to a local FFL in his area. Then tell him where he could pick up his purchase. The local FFL might be real surprised at HIS new weapon! Beach

    Beach
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  • Smoky14Smoky14 Member Posts: 531 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I was a instructor at FLETC I graded his papers; I think he went to ATF.

    Ask for the money up front!

    Respect for self Respect for others Responsible for all actions
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  • thesupermonkeythesupermonkey Member Posts: 3,905 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Beach,
    Technically, ANYONE, including criminals, terrorists, or psychopaths can PURCHASE a firearm. However, you must meet the criteria to POSSESS it. Just because the buyer can't possess the firearm doesn't mean it automatically belongs to the ATF/FFL/Police. If the buyer is unable to possess the weapon he may sell it to whomever he chooses as long as he does so through his FFL(who maintains possession).

    I THINK that's right.
    Munkey


    Don't worry about the bullet with your name on it, worry about the fragmentation grenade addressed 'To Occupant'.
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  • PelicanPelican Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Elmo: He wanted to buy a Standard Arms SA-40 .40 cal pistol.

    Think you might be a bit off on your statement Monkey, guess it depaneds on sematics.
    The 4473 requires the buyer to state that he/she is the actual purchaser. A felon cannot be the actual purchaser. I run into this on rare occassion when someone pawns a firearms without knowing they will be unable to redeem it because they have a record. Lot's of folks seem to think "Oh that, gee that was 20 years ago that shouldn't count". They don't relize that a felony is like aids, it don't go away. What I do in that situatiion is to advise that someone else can redeem the gun but that they cannot give it to the person that is a felon (whatever). I also davise them that the firearm is not even supposed to be in the house where the felon is. I have a form that the person redeeming the gun has to read and sign and I give them a copy of it. It basically states that they have been advise by the firearms dealer that the dealer has reason to believe that so and so is prohibited from possessing or having control of a firearm and that if they give said firearm to so and so, their * is grass. I attach a copy to the 4473 they fill out. It is CYA.

    The Almighty Himself Entrusted the Future of All Living Creatures to a Wooden Boat.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -"Audemus jura nostra defendere"
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