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Postal Match

agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
edited July 2002 in General Discussion
Anybody up for a Postal Match? I have items that I would donate as prizes. Need someone to volunteer to make the rules and score the targets. Any volunteers?

AlleninAlaska

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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Im in, How did you and the Boy's like the tape?.

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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I don't know what a Postal Match is.

    .........................................................
    I found this on the Internet.

    http://www.ipsc.org/ahpm02.htm
    http://www.ipsc.org/ahpm/02/ahpm02.pdf


    They are both from the same website.


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    Edited by - RugerNiner on 07/07/2002 19:46:21
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Great viewing. Thanks for the entertainment.

    Good to see one member with interest in this.

    Was thinking something along the lines of 30 caliber and over and under. Different rules for each category. Hunting firearms only on the 30 and up. Any firearm under. Hunting situation for over 30 caliber up and bench shooting for under 30 caliber. Any Ideas?

    AlleninAlaska

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  • varmit huntervarmit hunter Member Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like the way you have it now. Looks like we need shooters, Are you and I are going to have to swap targets. Postal match can be a lot of fun.

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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Postal Match is setting up some rules, and having someone score the tatgets. All done through the mail and the honor system. Most that I have donated to have required a witness to sign targets. Witness is eligeble to participate also, just need to have they're targets witnessed by the person that they witnessed for or another witness.

    The last Match sponsored by my former chat room was 9 shots on a 9" paper plate while sitting on a 5 gallon bucket. Smallest group closest to center of plate won. Plate was not allowed to have any markings on it to use as a point of aim.

    Other Matches I have donated to involved 9 shots at 3 different targets set up at different ranges and staggered from left to right. First target at 40 yards to the left, second tardet at 30 yards and 25 yards to the right of first target and 3rd target at 20 yards set 20 yards to left of second target. 9 shots, 3 on each target, time limit of 3 minutes. Smallest group closest to center on all 3 targets won.

    AlleninAlaska

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shoot,
    If all I need to do is go out and set up a few targets at measured distances, and try to shoot my rifle for a decent group, and mail my witnessed target to you Allen, I'm in too, sounds simple enough. If Idsman75 ever calls me we can both shoot this together while hes here.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • The LawThe Law Member Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    ...Robs...when he calls...let me know what...you all do...

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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Ryan, I don't think it will be that simple. Prefer to make it interesting. That's why we need some input on this. Would like to have this for Hunting scenario for 30 and above, benchrest for under 30 and possibly a handgun category. What needs to be worked out is how this would be set up for each category, nothing to complicated and at the same time not too easy. Something like running 200 yards and then shoot 10 rounds into a 9" paper plate, no aiming point at 100 yards in less than 2 minutes. Maybe instead of benchrest for under 30, could set it up to be off a bipod sitting or prone at a 5" target at say 500 yards. You know, make it simple for them. You get the gist.

    AlleninAlaska

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well darn it, you just took me out of it Allen. You may not have had the priveledge, (kidding), of having visited Ft. Leonard Wood, yet. I can find a 100 yd. stretch to shoot this course, but anything beyond that, on available private property, is out. Nothing but hills and woods here. If I shoot at any target from anything other than a standing position, at 100 yds., I wont be able to see the target, too many grasses and hills. Ah well, maybe when I PCS I'll find some place a little flatter and be able to participate in the next match.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Ryan, give some input as to what you would like done on this. I would appreciate input from anybody that would like to participate. Don't want to leave people out because they don't have the range to shoot. Let's make it possible for as many as possible to participate. You ever try shooting off a 5 gallon bucket with no support for your firearm. It would be done as if shooting from the offhand position except you would be sitting on a 5 gallon bucket.

    Input would be nice.

    AlleninAlaska

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Allen,
    I'm game for anything, and honestly, I think I'm probably one of the few that doesnt have the range to do as you wanted to do. I'd go ahead with your idea, on the range and scenarios, personally, I dont think 100 yds. proves a lot about someones ability to shoot. The bucket thing is good, pretty much simulates an actual hunting situation. Bipod? I dont know as that simulates hunting all that much, more like varmint hunting, or some big game situations I suppose, but I dont acutally use, nor do I know anyone else personally that uses one. I have never shot a match like this, so really dont feel my opinion worth much on the subject, but... I dont understand the terminology of over and under, I know you're not talking about a shotgun. I'm guessing you class the match into any cal. under 30, 30, and any cal. over 30? So you need at least 3 guns, and a pistol for pistol shooting. The running may leave a few members out, not all of us are mobile, some are handicapped, and some just shouldnt attempt to run 100 yds if not use to it, seriously. I'd be able to run 100 yds. and then shoot a target, but I'd have to do laps to still have the 100 yds to shoot, he, he! Why dont you just make the ground rules, and see how many people can participate, and make modifications to accomodate if required. I bet there are a lot of people that are interested, I still am, I just might have to get creative in finding a place to shoot, ask a few of my buddies neighbors to please step behind the firing line, ya know? Cut a few trees down, no big deal, he's got me clearing it anyway. If anyone cant participate in all the phases of competition, then they just do what they can, right? Is it an accumulative score, to win, or seperate score for each part of it? Anyway, just do like the military does, lay a plan out, let everyone complain, then adjust the plan.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    robsguns;
    If you are going to cut trees down you need a .223 I learned that on this BB.

    I would have to use a Public Outdoor Range. I don't know how they would take it if I was to run in between them firing at various targets. People get so paranoid when you use their shoulder for a gun rest.


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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    RugerNiner,
    Nah, I too have a 7.62x54, but I also have a Stihl as a backup plan, just in case in cant handle the task, but I think it will. I'd use the 458, but then I wouldnt be able to compete in the competition. Broken shoulder isnt good for shooting.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Only need one firearm Ryan. 30 caliber and up or under 30 caliber. If you wanted to shoot both or all three, then you would need a firearm for each. Let me think up some rules and then put them out here and see how many responses we get. Maybe even get some amended rules.

    AlleninAlaska

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Allen, thanks for clearing that up, I'm a virgin here with this terminology. You get the rules and course of fire figured out and you will hear no complaining from me, I really dont know much about these things. I talked to a buddy of mine today that lives further out from post, and I think I have @300 yds. that I can shoot now if required. Thats the furthest I have available though. Now you have me curious as to the rules, trying to figure out which gun to use, scope or no scope, I know you'll get it out soon enough, but this will be fun I think. Are there anymore people interested or are the rest of these guys scared of shooting against each other? I'm either going to use my 7x57 iron sighted original 1908 Brazillian Mauser, or my Ruger .338 with Leupold scope, depending on the amount of rounds, and sighting limitations, and course of fire, I'm already leaning towards the 7x57, as its so accurate and light, and doesnt have the recoil that would slow me down in a timed event. I dont have a semi-auto, so I may be looking to get wiped in a timed event, but the again, sounds like a good reason to buy another gun.

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Member Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Could do a course at 100 for open sight rifles, on a NRA mil type 100 yd target, say 40 rounds 10 offhand, 10 kneeling, 10 sitting, 10 prone, couldnt do rapid fire because civilian guns have no way to load that fast, but a total time of 30 min. That would be 2 boxs of ammo perhaps 2 or maybe 3 targets, line cutters are the higher score, score your own.

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    100 yd is max at my range.

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  • rscoleman88rscoleman88 Member Posts: 4,250
    edited November -1
    I'm in let me know.

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  • Norman DogNorman Dog Member Posts: 470 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We could do this as a series of different scenarios. Start simple so that all who want to participate can. On subsequent scenarios, we can mix it up and participation would be optional - as long as everyone's needs were considered over the long run. Each match could have the same number of total points and the winner of the series would be the one with the highest average.

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  • RugerNinerRugerNiner Member Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    How about just Pistols?

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somehow, I'm seeing RugerNiner kicking my * in a pistol match, just a feeling.

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  • concealedG36concealedG36 Member Posts: 3,566 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    This sounds like a blast! I'm in!

    I only have a 100yd range for my rifle, but I can do a lot with my pistol.

    Anybody want to participate in a much simpler version of Allen's plan? Maybe a 10,15,20 and 25 yard pistol shoot with left and right hand or something?

    G36


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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Pistols only sounds good for the first try at this. Revolver category, semi-auto category and single shot. Divided up by calibers. 40 caliber and up, 30 caliber and up and under 30 caliber. 22 a seperate category. Any ideas as to how to work this? 22's at 15 yards. Single shots at 100 yards. Revolvers at 50 yards and semi-autos at 25 yards. What sayeth ye.

    AlleninAlaska

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  • robsgunsrobsguns Member Posts: 4,581 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like a winner. GHD, RugerNiner, you're both disqualafied for being overqualafied. Allen, I only have one auto, and its a .22, can I use it in the auto category or am I going to be sitting that one out? Oh wait a minute, I have a Makarov, two of them, forgot, never mind then, I'm good for all the matches I think. Have to sit the single shot cat. out. Hmm....good reason to buy another gun?

    SSgt Ryan E. Roberts, USMC
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  • agloreaglore Member Posts: 6,012
    edited November -1
    Postal Match Rules:


    This will be for handguns only the first go around to see how people like it.

    1. 22 Rimfire. 15 yards offhand at a 9" paper plate. No aiming point allowed on target. Iron sights only. Semi-auto, single shot or revolver.

    2. Any caliber over 22. Semi-auto at 25 yards. 9" paper plate with no aiming point on target. Offhand. Iron sights only.

    3. Any caliber over 22. Revolver at 50 yards. 9" paper plate with no aiming point on target. Iron sights from the bench or off hand, which ever you shoot the best from.

    4. Any caliber over 22. Single shot pistol. 100 yards. 9" paper plate with no aiming point on target. Benchrest, sitting, prone, kneeling or offhand, which ever you feel most comfortable at.

    All targets scored by the smallest group for 10 shots closest to the center of the target. All targets must be received by Sept. 15th 2002. All targets must be witnessed and dated. Witness may also be a competitor but also must have a witness sign their targets. Do not have to compete in all 4 categories. I will donate a prize for all 4 categories. With a Grand Prize to the best targets of any competitor who shoots all four categories. Must be registered either as a member of GunBroker Forums or Perfect Union web site by August 1st.


    If anybody would like to have the rules changed or amended, please speak up now as these will be the final rules effective July 15th 2002.

    AlleninAlaska

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