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A Wake Up Call
p3skyking
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I've excerpted a few posts from the LA Times question about the Democratic Party and Latinos. The post from Archie Marmolejo is very telling and Republicans and religious people need to get their heads out of their * before we lose the game.
Michael Carter The Democratic Party is in a dilemma with Latinos. They're mostly Conservative, hard working, and have faith in God. That's diametrically opposed to the average Democratic voter. They can try to entice them with free stuff, but I don't see the Democrats letting them into the upper echelon of the Party.
Archie Marmolejo Yes , most of people I know , are conservative , but unfortunately , The GOP make us very uncomfortable, by generalizing and accusing us latinos for all the social and economical problems the country has.
Michael Carter Archie, I know and I * at religious people all the time about it. Mexicans and South Americans traditionally are faithful and would probably be against abortion if asked. Republicans are starting to wake up to these simple facts and this is why I'm am supporting Rubio as hard as I can. He may be the bridge to bring this counrty back from the brink.
Michael Carter The Democratic Party is in a dilemma with Latinos. They're mostly Conservative, hard working, and have faith in God. That's diametrically opposed to the average Democratic voter. They can try to entice them with free stuff, but I don't see the Democrats letting them into the upper echelon of the Party.
Archie Marmolejo Yes , most of people I know , are conservative , but unfortunately , The GOP make us very uncomfortable, by generalizing and accusing us latinos for all the social and economical problems the country has.
Michael Carter Archie, I know and I * at religious people all the time about it. Mexicans and South Americans traditionally are faithful and would probably be against abortion if asked. Republicans are starting to wake up to these simple facts and this is why I'm am supporting Rubio as hard as I can. He may be the bridge to bring this counrty back from the brink.
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Likewise there is a discrepancy in the claim to the hardworking nature of the Hallowed Hispanic, as well as their Faith in God. Welfare use among non-white Hispanics is over 36%. Again, being 14% of the population means that number is skewed badly.
I also believe that Faith is great. Although a cynic might point out that actually following the teachings of the Faith might knock the Begeezuz out of the Hispanic Illegitimacy rate of 53%. Pretty sure the Teachings of the Faith stop somewhere short of Hump-To-Your-Heart's-Content-and-Breed-Like-A-Bunny.
I can see little in the comment from Marjolejo that is anything but a Strawman Argument, and a poorly constructed one at that. I guess someone would have to show me where anyone of consequence has stated that Latinos are to blame for "ALL the social and economical problems" the US has. It would sure seem that Archie is trying to artfully skip right past the significant contribution made to those social and economic issues by the Hispanic segment of the population.
As an activity designed to improve the USA, I see little upside to importing, whether legally or illegally, large numbers of low education, low income, high birthrate folks from countries with no cultural history of successful, functional civic life.
YMMV
Dads, you may not see it, but the Democrats damned sure do.
See what? That Hispanics lay claim to wonderful motives, and are in fact more than willing to put aside what are supposed to be deeply held beliefs for some payola?
Are we supposed to also put aside truth and what we know is right so that we can 'win'? Do we just promise the Hispanics a bigger payoff? To what end?
Do you define that as Victory?
A more nuanced view mouth. Inmight in% of thoverall population. Add in that over half of that crime is cl there is some truth coming out of more than one cluding Trump's.
Likewise there is a discrepancy in the claim to the hardworking nature of the Hallowed Hispanic, as well as their Faith in God. Welfare use among non-white Hispanics is over 36%. Again, being 14% of the population means that number is skewed badly.
I also believe that Faith is great. Although a cynic might point out that actually following the teachings of the Faith might knock the Begeezuz out of the Hispanic Illegitimacy rate of 53%. Pretty sure the Teachings of the Faith stop somewhere short of Hump-To-Your-Heart's-Content-and-Breed-Like-A-Bunny.
I can see little in the comment from Marjolejo that is anything but a Strawman Argument, and a poorly constructed one at that. I guess someone would have to show me where anyone of consequence has stated that Latinos are to blame for "ALL the social and economical problems" the US has. It would sure seem that Archie is trying to artfully skip right past the significant contribution made to those social and economic issues by the Hispanic segment of the population.
As an activity designed to improve the USA, I see little upside to importing, whether legally or illegally, large numbers of low education, low income, high birthrate folks from countries with no cultural history of successful, functional civic life.
YMMV
here you go some stats from the fed's
Inmate Race
Statistics based on prior month's data -- -- Last Updated: Saturday, 30 May 2015
WhiteBlack
Race # of Inmates % of Inmates
Asian 3,182 1.5%
Black 78,112 37.6%
Native American 3,945 1.9%
White 122,771 59.0%
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BOP Statistics: Inmate Race - Federal Bureau of Prisons
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Federal Bureau of Prisons
Apr 25, 2015 - Inmate Statistics ? Population Statistics ? Staff Statistics. Inmate Statistics ... Inmate Race. Statistics based on ... Race, # of Inmates, % of Inmates.
Breaking Down Mass Incarceration in the 20
http://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_ethnicity.jsp
Non-Hispanic 136,978 65.9%
Hispanic 71,032 34.1%
The problem with all of this is that Hispanic and/or Latino is not a 'race'. It is an ethnicity. It is only the last couple of years that the FBI started keeping separate stats. And in the 'Citizenship' section, it shows 16% of inmates are citizens of Mexico. Also the stats show that a percentage somewhere around 18% of inmates are Hispanic/Latino who are citizens.
As with what we have seen in the black community, the problem is not one of race. It is one of culture. The stats clearly show an over-representation of Hispanic/Latino inmates, and likewise crimes committed.
Unless someone can show some sort of proof that certain races are born prone to crime, the answer lies in a problem with one or more sub-cultures. Address those, and the problem may lessen. Avoid dealing with the issue, and the smart money says the problem will continue.
Please understand that none of this says Hispanics/Latinos are inherently Bad People. The stats simply show a proclivity to operate -under a cultural paradigm too closely linked to anti-social and negative pathologies.
What part of illegal is it that people don't understand ?
Too old to live...too young to die...
Every time I hear somebody make noise about illegals I see them as one more backward step into Loserville.
The vastly larger issue is organized crime's ability to make billions of dollars off inadequate Border and Port Security. Drugs, guns, money, humans, kidnapping, extortion, protection, sex slaves, worming their way into legit businesses to use them as covers for illegal ones. The range of "businesses" that organized crime from Mexico to South America is worth around $40 Billion.
There are so many images that could have been used to fight for Border and Port Security it is just plain tragic that the bigger issue was ignored at the start. With over 100,000 dead, open warfare between gangs, police and military, corruption of American law enforcement and local government down the Rio Grande Valley, American young looked upon as the future of these organized crime profit models, it is an outrage that our so called leaders picked illegal aliens to base this fight on.
Absolute incompetence from start to finish.
But apparently Republicans must sell out...or at least they think they must sell out...on open borders to win Latino votes.
There needs to be no sell out. Just reform immigration like Congress was SUPPOSED TO DO instead of letting Obama do it.
Deport the current illegals and streamline the process to let vetted aliens in.
Our border is still open and no one is being stopped or checked out. Again, Congress won't get off their * and we have McConnell and Boehner to thank for it.