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Missing in the Bermuda Triangle

allen griggsallen griggs Member Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭
edited May 2017 in General Discussion
Family of missing plane passengers fear the worst
By Kate Sheehy and David K. Li May 16, 2017 | 2:59pm | Updated

Relatives of the couple who went missing in the Bermuda Triangle said Tuesday they are frantic with worry.


The missing pilot, Nathan Ulrich, is the former husband of actress Rae Dawn Chong.

?We?re waiting for the Coast Guard to tell us whether our grandchildren and our children are alive,? said a distraught man answering the phone at the home of the parents of the missing woman, Jennifer Blumin, in Tarrytown.

?We?re waiting with bated breath for the Coast Guard to call.?

Blumin, her two young sons and pilot boyfriend Ulrich went missing in the small plane Monday near the island of Eleuthera in the Bahamas.

Ulrich?s father told The Post through tears, ?I?m afraid it?s a little hard to talk about it.

?Right now, we?re still dealing with the uncertainty. We have nothing other than they?re still searching and haven?t found any definitive evidence of any kind one way or the other. We?re expecting to hear from the Coast Guard with a general report at 5 p.m.?

Chong, the daughter of Cheech & Chong?s Tommy Chong, tweeted, ?My ex-hubby?s (Nathan Ulrich) plane is missing over the Bermuda Triangle. I am sad and in shock. So send prayers to his family. Thanks.?

She told The Post, ?We?re all in massive shock.

?He?s a really, really, really good pilot,? she said of her ex. ?For him to be missing, that?s not good.?

The pilot?s brother, Walter Ulrich, 48, of Manhattan said he?s trying to remain optimistic.

?I hope he?s treading water somewhere in the Caribbean,? Walter Ulrich said. ?He?s an experienced pilot.?

Still, ?it doesn?t look good right now.?


Rae Dawn Chong described her ex-spouse as ?totally by the book, instrument-rated.

?He?s a Ph.D., a mechanical engineer,? she said. ?This is a bummer. I?m very concerned.?

Rae Dawn Chong said she met Blumin through her ex, with whom she is still friendly.

?I love him,? she said. ?He?s a really kind person, and [Blumin] is an adorable woman, and the kids are great.

?He was happy, and they were great.

?She?s a really good mother,?? she added of Blumin.

The plane, which Blumin appears to own, was headed from Puerto Rico to Titusville on the northeast coast of Florida at the time.

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  • discusdaddiscusdad Member Posts: 11,427 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    wreckage has been found. awaiting confirmation it was his plane.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is where float planes really shine. Egress from small aircraft ditching is difficult, but at least the waters are warm.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    This is where float planes really shine. Egress from small aircraft ditching is difficult, but at least the waters are warm.



    Warm and full of sharks.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    This is where float planes really shine. Egress from small aircraft ditching is difficult, but at least the waters are warm.



    Warm and full of sharks.




    Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks. They congregate around land masses where animal protein is more readily found. I don't know where the plane went down.
  • MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I heard they were flying in in a Mitsubishi MU2.

    Seen by many as the most dangerous business turboprop.
    What say you, Rocky?

    I took a trip on one from Hartford to Teterborough.
  • TombstonejimTombstonejim Member Posts: 190
    edited November -1
    It is a good AC. The problem was that it flys more like a jet than a prop. When it first came out pilots with only piston engine experience were trying to fly it like a they did piston twins and it didn't work. Once the FAA said you had to have a type certification to fly it things were OK.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup. The MU2 is a HOT flyer. Kinda like the Learjet of prop planes. And also like the Lear, not very forgiving if you let things get out of hand. No telling what may have happened, though.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks. They congregate around land masses where animal protein is more readily found.


    I would say the approx. 150 men out of the 1,196 that were aboard the USS Indianapolis when she went down during WWII that were eaten by Whitetip Sharks in open seas would beg to differ.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks. They congregate around land masses where animal protein is more readily found.


    I would say the approx. 150 men out of the 1,196 that were aboard the USS Indianapolis when she went down during WWII that were eaten by Whitetip Sharks in open seas would beg to differ.




    As usual, you're incorrect. While the exact spot of the sinking is unknown, they passed to the North of Palau Island.
    I took an oceanography course many years ago, not so much the wild life, but the prevailing currents and weather and how it applied to war fighting.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    This is where float planes really shine. Egress from small aircraft ditching is difficult, but at least the waters are warm.



    Warm and full of sharks.




    Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks. They congregate around land masses where animal protein is more readily found. I don't know where the plane went down.





    I've spent a lot of time sailing around the Caribbean and I'd have to say that you could be more wrong but it's unlikely.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • wpageabcwpageabc Member Posts: 8,760 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Coast Guard is expert at these things. If anyone can the US Coast Guard will...
    "What is truth?'
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by bullshot
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    This is where float planes really shine. Egress from small aircraft ditching is difficult, but at least the waters are warm.



    Warm and full of sharks.




    Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks. They congregate around land masses where animal protein is more readily found. I don't know where the plane went down.





    I've spent a lot of time sailing around the Caribbean and I'd have to say that you could be more wrong but it's unlikely.






    You're never far from land in the Caribbean. Open ocean has abysmal plain under it like the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. No islands for hundreds of miles. Now look up abysmal plain since you most likely have never heard the term.
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, I looked it up and you are right. It said that there are no sharks except near land and for sure none between Porto Rico and Titusville Florida in the Atlantic Ocean.

    I sure wish I could know EVERYTHING without exception .... just like you.
    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Debris have been found 15 miles east (leeward) of a small island. If this is the plane, it must have come down fairly close to the island.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    As usual, you're incorrect. While the exact spot of the sinking is unknown, they passed to the North of Palau Island.


    For a know it all you're a real dumb *!! The Navy knows where their ship went down and it's not near land.

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  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    As usual, you're incorrect. While the exact spot of the sinking is unknown, they passed to the North of Palau Island.


    For a know it all you're a real dumb *!! The Navy knows where their ship went down and it's not near land.




    If you knew how to research you would know "Official Navy Position" means they don't know the actual position and haven't gone down to look. Even the Japanese sub could only provide a rough estimate.
    Using even that position, land was less than 300 miles away.
    What happened to you not reading my posts since the non ethanol gas thread? I'm pretty tired of having to teach stuff to people that should already know it.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The Indianapolis was found some years ago in appximately 15,000 feet of water. Probably on an abysmal plain.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • bullshotbullshot Member Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Flying a straight line from San Juan to Titusville, there would never be a point during the flight where the airplane would be more than 85 (+ or -) miles from some point of land.

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    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you"
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by discusdad
    wreckage has been found. awaiting confirmation it was his plane.


    It happens.
  • Smitty500magSmitty500mag Member Posts: 13,623 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    As usual, you're incorrect. While the exact spot of the sinking is unknown, they passed to the North of Palau Island.


    For a know it all you're a real dumb *!! The Navy knows where their ship went down and it's not near land.




    If you knew how to research you would know "Official Navy Position" means they don't know the actual position and haven't gone down to look. Even the Japanese sub could only provide a rough estimate.
    Using even that position, land was less than 300 miles away.
    What happened to you not reading my posts since the non ethanol gas thread? I'm pretty tired of having to teach stuff to people that should already know it.


    This is not your thread dumb *!
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Smitty500mag


    This is not your thread dumb *!




    Hmmmmmm

    Post: A segment of a thread.

    Thread: A lot of segmented posts.

    These are two different words that mean different things.

    I never said it was my thread.

    I said it was my post.

    There's really no doubt who the * is.
  • o b juano b juan Member Posts: 1,941 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    all right children stop it
  • skicatskicat Member Posts: 14,431
    edited November -1
    I blame the Russians for hacking the ?..wait?.what?
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have learned a lot on this thread.

    Mainly that less than 100 miles from land is open ocean and there are few sharks, but less than 300 miles is close enough to expect sharks.

    Thank you, P3 for teaching us things we should have already known.[:o)]
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I have learned a lot on this thread.

    Mainly that less than 100 miles from land is open ocean and there are few sharks, but less than 300 miles is close enough to expect sharks.

    Thank you, P3 for teaching us things we should have already known.[:o)]


    You're a pretty petty person Don.

    Sharks, like all pack animals, have territories they cover. Some like the great whites have huge hunting grounds, while the little lemons might never leave a large atoll.

    If you really desire to learn, sign up for an oceanography course like I did.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just repeated two of your statements, P3.

    Maybe you should have done more than just sign up.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    I just repeated two of your statements, P3.

    Maybe you should have done more than just sign up.


    You tried to goad me about MacArthur but failed. Opinions are like * holes. You can be one.
    (Not so)Perfect played off on you too and he failed.
    You erred saying 100 miles is open ocean. I never said or inferred that. You are just a dick. a limp one.
    Go eat some oysters and grow up.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We're going to miss you, p3. I will, anyway. But your continued bickering is going to get you banned. I do wish you'd consider before pontificating and then arguing. It's a lesson I had to learn elsewhere, so I know what's it's like. But I changed, and so can you. Peace, my friend.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Rocky Raab
    We're going to miss you, p3. I will, anyway. But your continued bickering is going to get you banned. I do wish you'd consider before pontificating and then arguing. It's a lesson I had to learn elsewhere, so I know what's it's like. But I changed, and so can you. Peace, my friend.


    Rocky, I tell people all the time that bruises last a week but cowardice lasts a lifetime.

    What kind of man would I be if I didn't walk my talk?
    No better than the scum that's always trying to ankle-bite someone.
    If I'm banned, I can live with that.

    https://youtu.be/2H5uWRjFsGc
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Cowardice is not the same as avoiding abrasiveness. But I've already preached enough.

    Back to the original thread topic.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    You tried to goad me about MacArthur but failed. Opinions are like * holes. You can be one.
    (Not so)Perfect played off on you too and he failed.
    You erred saying 100 miles is open ocean. I never said or inferred that. You are just a dick. a limp one.
    Go eat some oysters and grow up.


    The MacArthur discussion was important because of the myth that has been perpetuated over the past 70+ years. If your self-importance is such that you took it as a goading, so be it.

    You specifically stated 'Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks.' when referring to the aircraft that went down. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the area knows that there are islands in abundance, and land is always very close, nautically speaking.

    So yes, you did say that, you did infer that the plane went down in open ocean. It did not.

    You started the nit-picking on this thread with factually incorrect statements and then tossed out a contradictory statement with the ludicrous claim that the position of the Indianapolis is unknown. I have no problem with people making mistakes. We all do, and I have no issue with mistakes.

    I will, however, almost always go after the know-it-all that doesn't.

    All the best,

    Don
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    You tried to goad me about MacArthur but failed. Opinions are like * holes. You can be one.
    (Not so)Perfect played off on you too and he failed.
    You erred saying 100 miles is open ocean. I never said or inferred that. You are just a dick. a limp one.
    Go eat some oysters and grow up.


    The MacArthur discussion was important because of the myth that has been perpetuated over the past 70+ years. If your self-importance is such that you took it as a goading, so be it.

    You specifically stated 'Actually in open ocean, there are almost no sharks.' when referring to the aircraft that went down. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the area knows that there are islands in abundance, and land is always very close, nautically speaking.

    So yes, you did say that, you did infer that the plane went down in open ocean. It did not.

    You started the nit-picking on this thread with factually incorrect statements and then tossed out a contradictory statement with the ludicrous claim that the position of the Indianapolis is unknown. I have no problem with people making mistakes. We all do, and I have no issue with mistakes.

    I will, however, almost always go after the know-it-all that doesn't.

    All the best,

    Don



    100 miles is not even out of a countries territorial fishing area. most countries claim at least 200 miles.
    It's not my concern what you interpret or how wrong you interpret.
    Later in the conversation I said that in the caribbean you're always close to land. There is no discrepancy, put on your glasses.
  • Don McManusDon McManus Member Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    100 miles is not even out of a countries territorial fishing area. most countries claim at least 200 miles.
    It's not my concern what you interpret or how wrong you interpret.
    Later in the conversation I said that in the caribbean you're always close to land. There is no discrepancy, put on your glasses.


    I understand you have a near child-like need to be right, so I will agree that you stated that in the Caribbean you are almost always near land after nit-picking bullshot's statement regarding sharks, stating that they are not found in the open ocean.

    I guess you could have just as well said that penguins are not found in the artic in that has about as much application in this case.

    I assumed your comment was intended to advance the conversation rather than some meaningless statement of extraneous information. I apologize for my mistake.
    Freedom and a submissive populace cannot co-exist.

    Brad Steele
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Polar bears are not found in the Antarctic.
    Let it be done and I will too.
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