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Tokyo Rose died
tapwater
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...Just heard on the news. Natural causes, in Chicago, age 90.
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Did she actually cost any Americans their lives?
How exactly would you measure that? Did she kill them directly? Not likely. But, does decrease moral lead to the death of Americans in battle? Probably it has some effect.
I suspect you are giving her more credit that she deserved, but she certainly did not do us any good. I think a lot of us here would have found her a source of humor if we listened at all.
She's a little before my time. The only thing I know about her is what I've read about her over the years.
I was never aware that Tokyo Rose caused any sort of problems to morale. I'm pretty sure our troops back in the day weren't as soft and delicate as you give them credit for being.
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Spanielsells,
I was never aware that Tokyo Rose caused any sort of problems to morale. I'm pretty sure our troops back in the day weren't as soft and delicate as you give them credit for being.
I always thought that the reaction of American troops to the Tokyo Rose broadcasts were similar to the reaction to the Iraqi propoganda broadcasts in the First Gulf War (where they would say things like "Tom Selleck is at home having sex with your wife"), they were more a source of amusement more than anything else. I'm sure most soliders just listened for the music and laughed at the propoganda parts.
To think that she committed some kind of special crime by producing propaganda broadcasts is not fair to the memories of US soldiers who died as a result of real "war criminals" many of whom were never prosecuted.
If the Tokyo Rose broadcasts were causing any harm to the morale of US troops, the US command could have ordered that the troops not listen to the broadcasts. The reason most troops listened was because it was the only source of popular music on radio in the Pacific Theater.
My mother, who grew up in Ireland during WWII, says she remembers Lord Haw Haw broadcasts during the war. he was actually Irish, both his parents were from Galway, but he enlisted in the British Army before going over to the Germans. That makes him a traitor.
I believe that people that betray friendship or allegiance receive a special catagory of attention. Judas and Jesus, Benedict Arnold and the U.S., Jane Fonda and Viet Nam vets, Tokyo Rose and the U.S. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor Japanese represenatives were in Washington talking peace. That ticked off a lot of people that to this day hate Japan. Even criminals despise a "snitch" that pretends to be a friend to gain information. Closer to home check out the divorce courts. If a husband cheats(betrays) on his wife many times she will hate him enough try to destroy his life even if it destroys her's as well.
I never understood why "Tokyo Rose" was prosecuted. She returned to Japan early after the war started, like many thousands of Nissei in the United States. She renounced her US citizenship and should have been treated like any other person who served the Japanese empire during WWII.
I believe that people that betray friendship or allegiance receive a special catagory of attention. Judas and Jesus, Benedict Arnold and the U.S., Jane Fonda and Viet Nam vets, Tokyo Rose and the U.S. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor Japanese represenatives were in Washington talking peace. That ticked off a lot of people that to this day hate Japan. Even criminals despise a "snitch" that pretends to be a friend to gain information. Closer to home check out the divorce courts. If a husband cheats(betrays) on his wife many times she will hate him enough try to destroy his life even if it destroys her's as well.
Tokyo Rose was picking pears in California when the jap negotiators were doing their doble talk in Washington. Thousands of japanese men born in the USA went back to japan and fought for the emperor, none of them was prosecuted. Japanese doctors who performed medical experiments on US soldiers were not prosecuted.
quote:that to this day hate Japan
Yep, some people are really good haters. I try to avoid those folks.
Japanese who were born here were imprisoned during the war, though people of German decent were not.
quote:that to this day hate Japan
Yep, some people are really good haters. I try to avoid those folks.
I know how you feel HeDog. I hate people who act that way.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/culture/20060529-115535-6055r.htm
Here is a link to a article that ran in the Washington Times last year that that some of you all need to read. You will find that most of what you think you know about her is incorrect.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/culture/20060529-115535-6055r.htm
That's never stopped any of the morons before. I get a lot of amusement reading the post of people who have no grasp or understanding of history.
Someone wrote the other day that they would have been surpised if the Japs COULDN'T have pulled off Pearl Harbor.
To transit an entire fleet across the open ocean, with allied ships, planes, and subs looking for it, achieve complete surprise with the attack, and take the entire fleet back to Japanese home waters unscathed when everyone KNEW where they were going, is nothing short of remarkable.
Some people are just unable to give credit where it's due.
So when are they going to prosecute "Hanoi Jane"?[:(!][:(!][:(!]
don't hold your breath.
Spanielsells,
I was never aware that Tokyo Rose caused any sort of problems to morale. I'm pretty sure our troops back in the day weren't as soft and delicate as you give them credit for being.
This from a Michael Moore fan. Anyone else surprised?
Forgive me, but I am just dying for some psudo "historian" to make some stupid comment so I can rip his meager brain pan out and devour what passes for grey matter. Anybody spare some fava beans?
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