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German Lufthansa Airbus crash

MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
edited March 2015 in General Discussion
Creepy.

So do you get the impression it disintegrated in the air? Or when it hit the French mountainside?

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  • fishkiller41fishkiller41 Member Posts: 50,608
    edited November -1
    My guess would be the Mountain BUT,some of it may have came apart,causing the Mountain to become a factor..
    Prayers for all involved asked from here..
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    With an 8 minute powered glide into the mountain, it's certainly a mystery. I would be inclined to think pressurization or loss of, but it seems with an 8 person flightcrew, someone would have recognized the symptoms in time to get to the flight station.
  • shilowarshilowar Member Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    With an 8 minute powered glide into the mountain, it's certainly a mystery. I would be inclined to think pressurization or loss of, but it seems with an 8 person flightcrew, someone would have recognized the symptoms in time to get to the flight station.


    If it was a cabin pressure issue typically wouldn't the plane have continued on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel?
  • ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
    edited November -1
    News radio on the drive home today said it appears to be a powered descent. As in what a pilot is trained to do in a loss of cabin pressure, get under 10,000 feet quickly.

    Terrible thing, all those people. Just terrible.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by shilowar
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
    With an 8 minute powered glide into the mountain, it's certainly a mystery. I would be inclined to think pressurization or loss of, but it seems with an 8 person flightcrew, someone would have recognized the symptoms in time to get to the flight station.


    If it was a cabin pressure issue typically wouldn't the plane have continued on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel?


    If autopilot had been set. CBS said they reached their flight altitude for exactly one minute and then began the downward path.
    No one used a cellphone or aircraft radios, so the mystery deepens.
  • spasmcreekspasmcreek Member Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    germany is cracking down on muslims......about 80% of them survive on welfare...country is fed up with sharia law crap, extremism, and other typical behaviour..so german airliner gets smoked ???????
  • GuvamintCheeseGuvamintCheese Member Posts: 38,932
    edited November -1
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It may have been a shattered windscreen. That's one theory being advanced.

    The shattered windscreen theory has some merit. If one shattered, there would be both an immediate loss of cockpit pressure, AND a 400-mph maelstrom of wind in the crew's faces. Probably no way for them to put on a mask, see, or communicate.

    The debris field consisting of only tiny pieces indicates (to me) either an inflight complete breakup, or an initial impact at extreme speed.

    Either is possible. If a windscreen did shatter, the inrush of air could have first blown out the crew compartment door, then burst the cabin like a balloon when airspeed got high enough in the rapid descent. OR, the plane could have hit a ridgeline right at the crest, causing instant and violent breakup that scattered debris over a wide area.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • select-fireselect-fire Member Posts: 69,529 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Terrible situation .
  • wpagewpage Member Posts: 10,201 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A shame all around...

    Lord help the families.
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The flight data recorder seems to be pretty damaged and is missing the memory card. The voice recorder indicates that one pilot was locked out of the cabin prior to the descent and can be heard banging on the door trying to get back in.
  • ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,665 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounding more like terrorism or suicide by the co pilot.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If the remaining pilot was named Muhamed or Achmed, there'll be hell to pay.

    I would not be surprised or upset if all airlines immediately terminated any Muslim pilots.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When I flew we had a three man cockpit. This only reenforces my belief that that is the only way to go.
    I cannot grasp why a pilot would have left the cockpit before reaching altitude and activating the auto-pilot.

    Don't they still carry fire axes onboard large aircraft?
  • CaptFunCaptFun Member Posts: 16,678 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking


    Don't they still carry fire axes onboard large aircraft?
    I'll ask some of my neighbors that are senior Delta Captains, but I think the axes are all locked up in the cockpit....
  • MBKMBK Member Posts: 2,918 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Rocky:

    There already are some instances wherein a Muslim flight pilot, copilot or crew member has done it?

    I seem to recall seeing a documentary about it on a foreign carrier.

    Egyptair 990

    The Malaysia 370 lost plane.
  • GrasshopperGrasshopper Member Posts: 17,042 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yep,,Megan reporting pilot locked out,,,another one of Barrys peace loving muslims,? maybe,,,I know jumping but it adds up
  • FrancFFrancF Member Posts: 35,279 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • p3skykingp3skyking Member Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by CaptFun
    quote:Originally posted by p3skyking


    Don't they still carry fire axes onboard large aircraft?
    I'll ask some of my neighbors that are senior Delta Captains, but I think the axes are all locked up in the cockpit....



    I contacted some old flyin' buddies. One is an instructer pilot at United and one is a stew at Southwest. They both told me the fire axes are in the cockpit only.
    It appears someone is going to have to come up with a new procedure to enter the cockpit.
    Another aviation rule written in blood. [xx(]
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