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UPS **ROTS**
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I ship a lot of ammo, mostly collector items. About three years ago, the local terminal manager refuse to accept packages, claiming it was no longer legal for individuals to ship live ammo . . . no matter that he couldn't cite the law / reg, company HQ stated it was perfectly legal and I routinely receive packages shipped by private individuals containing small arms ammo & so marked. Took my business to RPS, which became FedEx Ground. There are problems with them, but at least I can ship through them.
Some customers request UPS for whatever reason and until this week, I handled that by going to a UPS agent locally who would tack on a $5 fee and send it on its way. Tuesday, I took a package in, paid $13 to ship the thing and had a call the next day that is was returned for
'improper markings.' WTF? For some reason yet to be determined, this same damn terminal returned it because they won't accept "ORM-D Small Arms Ammunition" as a proper label. Never mind that this is the label specified by the regs and by the company rules.
So at this point, I'm out the shipping expense, my customer does not have his ammo and I'm about ready to go rip out the throat of the terminal manager.
What this country's shooters need is a competent carrier for their materials. Certainly the USPS, UPS and FedEx do not qualify.
I ship a lot of ammo, mostly collector items. About three years ago, the local terminal manager refuse to accept packages, claiming it was no longer legal for individuals to ship live ammo . . . no matter that he couldn't cite the law / reg, company HQ stated it was perfectly legal and I routinely receive packages shipped by private individuals containing small arms ammo & so marked. Took my business to RPS, which became FedEx Ground. There are problems with them, but at least I can ship through them.
Some customers request UPS for whatever reason and until this week, I handled that by going to a UPS agent locally who would tack on a $5 fee and send it on its way. Tuesday, I took a package in, paid $13 to ship the thing and had a call the next day that is was returned for
'improper markings.' WTF? For some reason yet to be determined, this same damn terminal returned it because they won't accept "ORM-D Small Arms Ammunition" as a proper label. Never mind that this is the label specified by the regs and by the company rules.
So at this point, I'm out the shipping expense, my customer does not have his ammo and I'm about ready to go rip out the throat of the terminal manager.
What this country's shooters need is a competent carrier for their materials. Certainly the USPS, UPS and FedEx do not qualify.
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Sounds like you need to go over this dork's head. Call UPS' 800 number, and talk to them. Get all the info you need, and the contact name/number of who HE can talk to. Then go tell him they said "ok" and proceed from there. Sounds like a little fish in a big pond syndrome (the manager). Good luck.
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refused to send ANY ammo out. Got hold of UPS Hazmat on the phone
(800-554-9964) and talked to Christina Jacobs who within 15 minutes
E mailed me a nice letter with complete instrucions, including making
the proper "ORM-D and "Small Arms Ammunition" labels and wrote for
the UPS manager to call her if any more problem. Since then, no
problem. But on each trip I still bring the letter, just in case of
a new employee who dont know the facts.
Trouble is, you can't ship ammo via USPS. So, I don't generally ship ammo.
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In point of fact, none of these carriers - USPS, UPS & FedEx - do a particularly good job. In most manufacturing / retailing operations in the private sector (recognizing that the latter two are, nominally), such poor, arrogant service would result in a steep decline in market share, if not bankruptcy. But when there are only one or two players, they have no incentive to do the job right. Another good example of that is Bill Gates' MacroCrap.
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and one was destroyed!If there is some way to break it,UPS will find it!
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I've seen the gorillas at the ups terminal throwing packages to each other while standing next to a conveyor belt. It's like they're playing catch. That's one good thing about shipping ammo, It's hard for these people to chuck a 40 lb. package.
John Colson
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