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Clinton's spin on Black Hawk Down-Outrageous

susiesusie Member Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭✭
edited August 2002 in General Discussion
When the media began reporting that Clinton's Whitehouse may have had some culpability in the recent corporate scandals Clinton fired back with his own version of history. The following is from the Wall Street Journal:

Clinton's Black Hawk History
On Somalia, the ex-president is as mendacious as ever.

Tuesday, August 6, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT

We wish Bill Clinton a quiet retirement, if only he'd return the favor. But when the former President distorts history for the sake of political advantage, someone has to clean up afterward.

Responding to Bush Administration suggestions that some of today's corporate scandals first got out of hand under his watch, Mr. Clinton recently shot back: "These people ran on responsibility, but as soon as you scratch them they go straight to blame. Now, you know, I didn't blame his [President Bush's] father for Somalia when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."





We can understand Mr. Clinton wanting to defend himself, but as usual he can't get his own facts straight. His introduction of Somalia here is one of those breathtakingly brazen attempts to dodge responsibility for which Mr. Clinton is justly famous. Here's the real history:
President Bush the Elder sent U.S. forces into Somalia in December 1992 to aid the United Nations in relieving a massive famine. In May of 1993, four months into his term, President Clinton declared that mission accomplished and pulled out most of the U.S. force. In a speech on the South Lawn to associate himself with the effort, he extolled the decision to intervene: "If all of you who served had not gone, it is absolutely certain that tens of thousands would have died by now." It was a "successful mission," he said, and "proved yet again that American leadership can help to mobilize international action."

But back in Somalia, with no U.S. deterrent, Somalia's warlords began fighting again. After a series of bloody attacks on U.N. peacekeepers, Mr. Clinton launched a new mission: In August 1993, he sent in a force of Rangers and Special Forces units to capture the brutal warlord Mohammad Farrah Aidid and restore order.

That force asked for heavy armor--in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles--as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.





Many military experts believe that if the U.S. forces had had armor, fewer would have died. Secretary of Defense Les Aspin resigned two months after Somalia, having acknowledged that his decision on the armor had been an error. A 1994 Senate Armed Services Committee investigation reached the same conclusion. But perhaps the most poignant statement came from retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Joyce, father of Sergeant Casey Joyce, a Ranger killed in Mogadishu: "Had there been armor . . . I contend that my son would probably be alive today."
Mr. Clinton's responsibility in Somalia doesn't stop there. Despite the mistakes that October day, Aidid had been struck a blow. The U.S. military, with 18 dead, wanted nothing more than to finish what it had started. Mr. Clinton instead aborted the mission. The U.S. released the criminals it had captured that same day at such great cost, and the U.N., lacking U.S. support, was powerless to keep order. Somalia remains a lawless, impoverished nation. Worse, the terrorists of al Qaeda interpreted the U.S. retreat from Somalia as a sign of American weakness that may have convinced them we could be induced to retreat from the Middle East if they took their attacks to the U.S. homeland.

Those are the facts. The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events had nothing to do with him. They were Mr. Clinton's responsibility, and his alone.



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Comments

  • NighthawkNighthawk Member Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very interesting article,sad but,true.Thanks for passing it along.


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  • offerorofferor Member Posts: 8,625 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    you very seldom read such a strong statement as "Those are the facts. The reason Mr. Clinton can't blame the events of "Black Hawk Down" on President Bush's father is because those events had nothing to do with him. They were Mr. Clinton's responsibility, and his alone." in a national newspaper with the heavy reputation enjoyed by the Wall Street Journal. This is great, because it is nothing less than a slap in the face to an ex-President for his attempt to shift blame to away from himself to a Republican President for purely selfish reasons. This article will go a long way to helping insure that no history book ever records Clinton's "version" as factual. I toast the Wall Street Journal for having the big brass ones to run this article with such strong language in it. Bravo, gentlemen editors.



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  • 5db5db Member Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    At the time that SNAFU in Somalia occurred my outrage was tempered by the fact Klinton was responsible and nothing should surprise me when it came to his total disregard for ALL things military. Nor did I feel I could ever have a stronger dislike for that air-breather. Then I saw "Blackhawk Down". And if that wasn't enough now he is trying to shift the blame. Why in the world anyone listens to him is a mystery to me. Furthermore, the fact Hillary was elected to the Senate proves there is such a thing as a sympathy vote.

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  • Shootist3006Shootist3006 Member Posts: 4,171
    edited November -1
    quote:On Somalia, the ex-president is as mendacious as ever
    mendaciousmendaciousmendaciousmendacious

    mendacity - bill clinton's legacy

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  • 4GodandCountry4GodandCountry Member Posts: 3,968
    edited November -1
    Clinton=Traitor
  • gap1916gap1916 Member Posts: 4,977
    edited November -1
    It is truly amasing to me how we put such people in positions of power. I have no doubt in my mind the american people will do it again. History does indeed repeat its self and if we do not understand that we will feel the pain over and over again. regan was an actor who became president. clinton was a prsident who was an actor and not a good one at that.

    Just my 2 cents
  • BullzeyeBullzeye Member Posts: 3,560
    edited November -1
    The mission portrayed in Blackhawk Down was known officially as The Battle of the Black Sea. The Black Sea was a slang term for a densely packed neighborhood in South Mogadishu where Aidid's clan, the Habr Gidr, was based and held the most sway.

    The mission was not directed at capturing Aidid, as that article above says. The mission was for the Dreaded D to capture two high-ranking Habr Gidr clan members while the Rangers provided perimeter security.
  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If & when Bubba should ever admit to being in error on anything, even using the wrong fork at a diplomatic dinner, it will be a first. And cause for headline news. How anyone could believe anything that comes out of that mouth is way past my understanding. I agree w/ offeror - the WSJ is to be commended not only for challenging that self-serving statement, but even more importantly for couching it in such strong terms.
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