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World Wide Grand Slam what 3 big game animals?
96harley
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If you could hunt world wide to bag your grand slam, what three would you go for. Let's say for the sake of arugment nothing is on the brink of extinction so fire away.
Mine would be African Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Polar Bear.
Mine would be African Elephant, Cape Buffalo, Polar Bear.
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Eric S. Williams
Eric S. Williams
I'd also like to take a moose....im a bit boring....but im still young and stupid
Eric S. Williams
Eric S. Williams
Brown Bear and Grizzly are the same. Only difference is that the Brown Bear has a source of a lot of high protien food like salmon in the rivers. Grizzly get stuck digging through the rocks in the mountains for squirrel or hopefully come across a sick or dead animal. Once in a while they might grab a moose calf or caribou calf. They did some moose calf collaring about 350 miles upriver from me. They collared 60 moose calves. 41 of them were killed. 11 by wolves and the rest by black and grizzly bears.
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Edited by - aglore on 08/17/2002 01:20:34
Eric S. Williams
Or Kodiak, Cape Buffalo, Jaguar - all with a .30-06
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I have a feeling that Kodiak, Grizzly, and Brown are 3 species. It would be nice to have the skinny on that. I believe Polar gets the biggest, but could be wrong.
What would you use, .338, 375, 468 -- true African-sized calibers? I think if I were going for a triple slam that would be the time to consider buying a true African caliber bolt action. I hear a lot of those African calibers are sold to people who have absolutely no use for them.
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Aglore is correct on the bear qusestion, all are the same species.
I wonder though about the big Russian-Siberian bears?
Anybody know about them???
Aglore??
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45-70 does the trick.
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Are you ready to take on the continent?s most dangerous game?
By Bob Rob
"Someone once said that hunting grizzlies and brown bears is "95% boredom, and 5% pure terror."
oes deer hunting bore you? Have you hunted enough elk to think that, while it?s cool and the country exquisite, it?s pretty tame stuff? Or maybe you?ve taken a mountain hunt for Dall sheep or mountain goats, and while you got the hackles raised a time or two thanks to treacherous terrain, you found out it really wasn?t that big a deal? Are you ready for something a bit more challenging? An adventure where things, as the British are wont to say, can get a bit "dicey?"
Then perhaps you are ready to head to the Great Land, as Alaskans call our 49th state, and match your skills, wits, and ? if I may be so bold, your courage ? against what I consider to be North America?s most magnificent big game animal, the huge brown bear and its smaller cousin, the interior, or mountain, grizzly.
Together with the polar bear, the big bears of Alaska and western Canada are the strongest, fastest, meanest predator on the continent. Taxonomically, brown and grizzly bears are the same animal, with brown bears growing larger simply because they have more to high-protein food to eat ? salmon ? than interior bears do. Both the Boone & Crockett and Pope & Young clubs recognize a dividing line between the two bears as being roughly 75 miles from the coast; coastal bears are brownies, all others grizzlies. Big brown bears will weigh well over 1000 pounds, with some approaching 1500 pounds or more. Mountain grizzlies must make a tougher living, and thus weigh substantially less, on average, with a big one weighing 500 to 700 pounds.
As an Alaskan resident, I can hunt the state?s dangerous huge brown without hiring an outfitter, as nonresidents must legally do (though I do hunt with outfitters, too.) I hunt them every year, both spring and fall. After more than 10 years of this, I?ve learned one thing ? there are no atheist grizzly hunters. Someone once said that hunting grizzlies and brown bears is "95% boredom, and 5% pure terror." No truer words were ever spoken. Most of the time, things go as planned, and everything is pretty much routine. Sooner or later, though, you are going to get jammed up, and there is going to be more excitement than a sane person knows what to do with. That is when you find out just what kind of relationship you have with the Almighty, because as sure as the sun rises in the East, you are going to be asking for His help.
When the chips are down, it?s critical that you use enough gun on Alaska?s big bears.
The Almighty and I have spoken on several occasions about this. Like the time superb outfitter Jim Boyce of Sitka was guiding me on a bowhunt up a salmon stream in southeast Alaska?s Tongass National Forest. Hiking the river back to camp well after dark, our headlamps turned up three sets of eyes ? a sow and two cubs. There is no worse nightmare in all of hunting. She charged, full-bore, straight for us. Thankfully she was on the other side of the stream and stopped, not 30 feet away, screaming and growling like the banshee from Hell. Two warning shots from Jim?s .375 H&H Magnum into the water didn?t make her blink. Finally she decided she?d given us enough grief, and sauntered off to retrieve her cubs and be on her way. I shook for days.
When, How To Hunt
Both spring (April/May) and fall (September/October) hunting is allowed. Both are excellent times to take dandy bears. In spring, when the bears have just emerged from their dens, the hides are as lush as can be. Then you glass, glass, glass, searching for bears that are covering lots of ground in search of food. In fall, brown bear hunting is concentrated on salmon streams. Fall grizzly hunts are again a glassing game, with hunters watching big drainages and hillsides covered with ripe berries, or staking out a moose or caribou carcass.
This glassing game can be tedious as you sit in one spot and search for the right bear, often for many days without seeing much. Then, suddenly, there he is, and you quickly forget all about how bored you are as your adrenaline kicks into overdrive. Especially when your guide takes you slinking through an alder jungle or impenetrable patch of devil?s club where your vision is measured in feet as you try and stalk your bear.
Guns & Loads
The best 10X binoculars you can afford plus a quality spotting scope are essential to play this glassing game. You?ll also need a large daypack to carry hunting gear & spare clothing.
Brown bear hunters should use the largest caliber they are comfortable shooting, with a .300 magnum the absolute minimum, the .338?s better, the .375 magnums unbeatable, and the .416?s superb, if you can handle them. In fact, a hunter using a Remington Model 700 in .416 Remington is the only man I have seen knock a big brown bear down for keeps with one shot ? and I have seen a couple dozen of them killed to date. Mountain grizzly hunters will be well-served with one of the various 7mm magnums, though a .300 magnum is ideal and the .338?s excellent. Muzzleloaders should shoot at least a .50 or .54 caliber rifle loaded with a conical bullet. The Remington Model 700 MLS Magnum, which can use up to 150 grains of black powder and generate a lot of kinetic energy, is an excellent choice.
Chances are, a grizzly hunt will be a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Take along the right equipment starting with your rifle.
My two Alaska big bear rifles are similar, both featuring Kevlar stocks and stainless metalwork. For brown bears I pack a Remington Model 700 KS Mountain Rifle in .375 H&H Magnum loaded with the 270-grain Remington Core-Lokt bullet. For interior bears it?s the same rifle chambered in .300 Win. Mag. Both have hammered many a big bear.
Regardless of what you shoot, the most important thing is being able to place your first shot in the vitals. The last thing you need is to have to chase hundreds of pounds of ticked-off, poorly-hit bear into the thick brush and root him out. Trust me when I tell you this is no fun at all.
Hiring a Guide
By law, non-residents must hire a licensed guide to hunt brown/grizzly bears, Dall sheep, and mountain goats in Alaska, or hunt with a resident who is second degree of kindred. These hunts, which usually run 10-14 days, are not cheap. While costs vary, generally speaking coastal brown bear hunts range from $9000-$14,000, while interior grizzly hunts range from $6500-$8500. At this price, it is imperative you carefully research potential outfitters before handing over your hard-earned money ? and your dreams. The best are often booked years in advance.
Despite the cost, I consider a top-quality brown or grizzly hunt one of the great investments a serious big game hunter will ever make. Hunting Alaska is, in and of itself, something you will never forget. And when you see your bear for the first time, then creep within a hundred yards or less before slipping the safety off, you?ll feel more alive than you ever will hunting deer, or elk, or even wild sheep. Then, all the hard work, the sacrifice, the nasty weather, the long days of seeing nothing will fade as you dig deep into your very soul to see what you?ve got.
And when you finally kneel beside your bear, and stroke his thick hide and stare at those long claws and marvel at just how big he really is, it will hit you. You?ve fairly taken on the continent?s most dangerous, and most magnificent, big game animal, and won. It?s a moment that will be with you to the grave.
For general information, contact the Alaska Department of Fish & Game, 333 Raspberry Rd., Anchorage, AK 99518; 907/267-2347; fax 267-2433; on the web at www.state.ak.us. A complete list of Alaska hunting guides is available for $5 from Alaska Dept. of Commerce & Economic Development, Division of Occupational Licensing, Box 110806, Juneau, AK 99811; phone 907/465-2543.
Courtesy of Harris Publications
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Edited by - shootist3006 on 08/18/2002 04:38:05
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